Expression for Uncertainty of Arbitrary Operator

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The discussion centers on the expression for the uncertainty of an arbitrary operator Q in quantum mechanics, specifically the formula σ = < \hatℚ² - <ℚ>² >. Participants debate its correctness in relation to Griffiths' equation 1.12, σ = √( - ²). The primary distinction noted is the absence of a square root in the first expression, which leads to the conclusion that both expressions are equivalent if the square root is disregarded. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the mathematical foundations of quantum mechanics and the implications of these expressions.

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Hello all, as far as I can see this question is not posted already, my apologies if it is and please provide a link. But I'm watching this video on youtube: And at 22:38 there's an expression given for the uncertainty of an arbitrary operator Q, however I'm concerned the expression is incorrect. Could anyone please look at the expression and tell me if it's true or a mistake?

The expression given is σ= < \hatℚ2 - <ℚ>2 >

Sorry, I can't seem to get LaTeX to work right, though I've managed it in the past.

If so could you please explain why it deviates from eqn 1.12 of Griffiths into QM which is:

σ=√(<j2>-<j>2)
 
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DrPapper said:
And at 22:38 there's an expression given for the uncertainty of an arbitrary operator Q, however I'm concerned the expression is incorrect. Could anyone please look at the expression and tell me if it's true or a mistake?

The expression given is σ= < \hatℚ2 - <ℚ>2 >
I actually I couldn't find that equation in the minute you mentioned above. Anyway, the difference between
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σ= < \hatℚ2 - <ℚ>2 >
and
DrPapper said:
σ=√(<j2>-<j>2)
is just the presence of the square root. Had the square root been removed from the second equation, they will become equivalent because ##\langle C \rangle = C## if ##C## is just number while at the same time ##\langle Q \rangle^2## is also a number.
 
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Let ##\bar A=\langle A\rangle##. Then ##\sigma_A^2:=\langle(A-\bar A)^2\rangle =\langle A^2\rangle -2\langle A\bar A\rangle+\langle\bar A^2\rangle =\langle A^2\rangle -2\bar A^2+\bar A^2 =\langle A^2\rangle -\bar A^2 =\langle A^2 -\bar A^2 \rangle##.

For the interpretation, see also this post and the discussion here.
 
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A. Neumaier said:
Let ##\bar A=\langle A\rangle##. Then ##\sigma_A^2:=\langle(A-\bar A)^2\rangle =\langle A^2\rangle -2\langle A\bar A\rangle+\langle\bar A^2\rangle =\langle A^2\rangle -2\bar A^2+\bar A^2 =\langle A^2\rangle -\bar A^2 =\langle A^2 -\bar A^2 \rangle##.

For the interpretation, see also this post and the discussion here.
Thank you I'll check those out. :D
 

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