Fake Rice: How Widespread is the Problem?

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The discussion revolves around the issue of fake rice, particularly focusing on reports of plastic rice being sold in Nigeria and the broader implications of food safety and authenticity in global food supply chains. Participants explore various aspects, including potential health risks, the credibility of sources reporting on the issue, and the historical context of food adulteration.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express shock and disbelief at the existence of fake rice, questioning the morality of such practices.
  • Concerns are raised about the health risks associated with consuming fake rice, including potential poisoning similar to past incidents involving melamine.
  • There are discussions about the credibility of reports regarding fake rice, with some participants suggesting that the issue may be exaggerated or based on urban legends.
  • Participants note that the rice may not actually be plastic but could be contaminated or adulterated in other ways.
  • Some argue that the supply chain for food products can become contaminated with adulterated items, complicating the issue of food safety.
  • There is a mention of historical instances of food adulteration in China, suggesting a pattern of unsafe food practices that may relate to the current issue.
  • Questions are raised about the extent of the problem and whether the reports reflect a widespread issue or isolated incidents.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the validity of the claims regarding fake rice, with multiple competing views on the credibility of the reports and the extent of the problem remaining unresolved.

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Some participants highlight the potential for misinformation and the need for critical examination of sources, indicating that the discussion may be influenced by varying levels of trust in media reporting.

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Readers interested in food safety, global trade issues, and the implications of food adulteration may find this discussion relevant.

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Good grief. What next?
 
At least that stuff doesn't spoil. :wideeyed:
 
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There is a video circulating of a "cook" making this rice from plastic bags in some back alley.

 
OMG! Is there no shame? I'm speechless.
 
China takes a very dim view of this sort of thing. It cuts into their exports. They will find the perpetrators (or at least people they will claim are the perpetrators) and if the past is any indication, shoot them and bill their families for the bullet.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
China takes a very dim view of this sort of thing. It cuts into their exports. They will find the perpetrators (or at least people they will claim are the perpetrators) and if the past is any indication, shoot them and bill their families for the bullet.

My understanding is that China is not a major exporter of rice around the world. That honour goes to India, followed by Thailand, the US, and Pakistan.

http://www.worldstopexports.com/rice-exports-country/

At any rate, this is not the first time that fake or suspect exports of food products from China has been reported. Consider the following, regarding protein adulteration in pet foods as well as other foods, dating as far back as 2007:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protein_adulteration_in_China

If you read the Wikipedia article (as well as the associated sources), there is at least the indication that leading Chinese officials have been involved in approving unsafe foods after taking bribes. One such individual, Zheng Xiaoyu, had been convicted in a Chinese court back in 2007, but given the opaque nature of the courts, who knows if there may be more such cases. And it may well be the case that this latest case may also involve corruption that reaches the highest levels of the Chinese government (since many of the companies involved in exports are state-owned enterprises).
 
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This post has lowered my appetite.
 
Astonishing!
Just empty calories.
No vitamin and mineral fortification.
 
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256bits said:
Astonishing!
Just empty calories.
No vitamin and mineral fortification.
Is there a poisoning risk like melamine?
 
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Evo said:
Is there a poisoning risk like melamine?
I was trying some humour for Plastic pellets shaped like rice -

But the other fake rice from potatoes and resin binder. The resin binder would or could hurt your system.
Would be kind of hard and chewy though I would think.

Melamine bad, as one cannot notice its presence, if not listed on ingredients.

Fake rice - why would anyone eat a second bowl of rice, especially if they know their rice, but then who does.

As an aside, a while back there was a study or investigation here in Canada, don't know if it was nation wide or city specific.
Restaurants were selling low quality fish as the top notch quality and charging patrons for it.
Thing is, the chefs were duped into buying what they thought was quality fish, from the vendor, ( editorial - who might have been duped himself and all the way down the line ).
If I can find the story...
 
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No, its fake!
 
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Rice is such a mainstay of the diet of so many asians, I find it difficult to believe many could be fooled, especially if it's plastic.
 
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SW VandeCarr said:
Rice is such a mainstay of the diet of so many asians, I find it difficult to believe many could be fooled, especially if it's plastic.
Supposedly it was being sold in Nigeria. Don't know if it would be mixed with other ingredients so that it would be hidden. I guess if you are starving, you don't pay much attention.
 
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Evo said:
Supposedly it was being sold in Nigeria. Don't know if it would be mixed with other ingredients so that it would be hidden. I guess if you are starving, you don't pay much attention.
SW VandeCarr said:
Rice is such a mainstay of the diet of so many asians, I find it difficult to believe many could be fooled, especially if it's plastic.
That is what I was getting at with the fish and restaurant little story.
The supply chain becomes contaminated with an adulterated product.
Once found out, all of it has to be checked, and if of poorer quality, disposed of in some fashion.

In the meantime, the unsuspecting, have conducted transactions built on honesty. It would be difficult to determine at times who in particular is not living up to expectations through the supply chain all the way from producer to user.

would the end user complain if every kernel was crap = yes.
if 1 kernel out of 10 = most likely
One out of 100, or a thousand = maybe.

In the meantime, eating the adullterated food can have health problems for you and your family a few years down the road, something surely not asked for. and definitely something one cannot call a victimless crime, is it.
 
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256bits said:
How much of the scandal is really this
http://www.snopes.com/info/glossary.asp
ie urban legend, ostension, myth, and just repeating the same story over and over and over without checking sources.

http://www.snopes.com/plastic-rice-from-china/

Because the Guardian is generally recognized as a legitimate news source with a reputation of excellent journalism, I had not thought to question the legitimacy of the news source. But perhaps it may indeed be possible (as suggested in the Snopes article above) that the rice grains may have been contaminated, tainted by chemicals or otherwise counterfeit, but may not actually be made of plastic.
 
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StatGuy2000 said:
Because the Guardian is generally recognized as a legitimate news source with a reputation of excellent journalism, I had not thought to question the legitimacy of the news source. But perhaps it may indeed be possible (as suggested in the Snopes article above) that the rice grains may have been contaminated, tainted by chemicals or otherwise counterfeit, but may not actually be made of plastic.
My question would be how pervasive.
I am not really questioning the validity, but the amount of traffic of story repetition.

As for validity, if these guys ( the video of plastic refuse processing ) are ABSOLUTELY into recycling, re-use, and cleaning up the environment, which would be admirable, the question that comes to my mind is: ( Just on the verge of PF violation but I hope it is taken as editorial comment that investigative reporters should pursue )
"Explain the plastic pellets shape and size so similar to rice kernels?"
And
"Why is that allowed? "

I gave you a LIKE, for your previous comments.
 

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