Falsification for scientific theories

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The discussion revolves around the concept of falsification in scientific theories, particularly in light of the Quine-Duhem thesis. Participants explore the challenges of falsifying theories when predictions do not align with reality, the implications of Popper's criterion of demarcation, and the complexities introduced by auxiliary hypotheses.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express interest in how to falsify scientific theories considering the Quine-Duhem thesis, which suggests that one can attribute failure to any hypothesis involved in a prediction.
  • One viewpoint asserts that if a theory fails to correspond with experimental results, it should be disregarded, especially if it cannot be applied in any relevant context.
  • A participant discusses the limitations of Popper's falsifiability criterion, arguing that it applies to systems of theories rather than isolated statements, raising concerns about the attribution of falsity to specific hypotheses.
  • There is mention of the 'tacking problem,' where critics argue that attaching metaphysical statements to empirical theories complicates the demarcation between science and pseudo-science.
  • Some participants note that modifying auxiliary hypotheses can lead to an empirically adequate theory, suggesting that the core of the original theory may remain intact despite falsification.
  • Concerns are raised about the implications of Popperian falsificationism, with some participants suggesting it does not provide a clear criterion for distinguishing scientific theories from non-scientific ones.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the applicability and limitations of falsificationism, with no consensus reached on the effectiveness of Popper's criteria or the implications of the Quine-Duhem thesis.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on definitions of falsifiability, the role of auxiliary hypotheses, and the unresolved nature of the criticisms against Popperian falsificationism.

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I am interest how one might falsify a scientific theory when we consider the objection from the quine-duham thesis. We can always blame one of the hypothesis that goes to making a perdiction, when the prediction does not correspond to reality.
 
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If a theory does not correspond to the results of an experiment then it is not correct in those circumstances. If it does not correspond to any results in any relevant experiment and cannot be used in any application then it's a load of crap and needs to be disregarded. Aditionally, many theories exist that can't be tested through experiment, they too should be disregarded.
 
kant said:
I am interest how one might falsify a scientific theory when we consider the objection from the quine-duham thesis. We can always blame one of the hypothesis that goes to making a perdiction, when the prediction does not correspond to reality.


The short answer is that the criterion of falsifiability is applicable only to systems, not to statements taken in isolation. In Popper's own words:


Much more serious is an objection closely connected with the problem of context, and the fact that my criterion of demarcation applies to systems of theories rather than to statements out of context. No single hypothesis, it may be said, is falsifiable, because every refutation of a conclusion may hit any single premise of the set of all premises used in deriving the refuted conclusion. The attribution of falsity to some particular hypothesis that belongs to this set of premises is therefore risky, especially if we consider the great number of assumptions which enter into every experiment...The answer is that we can indeed falsify only systems of theories and that any attribution of falsity to any particular statement within such a system is always highly uncertain.


But this does not end the problems. In order to not exclude 'universal laws of nature' from science* - those which cannot be tested in isolation - he should accept that a falsifiable system (S) formed by the conjunction of such a theory (S1) with other theories (S2, S3 etc) makes S1 scientific too (S is scientific upon the above criterion of falsification).

But if this is the case - critics observed - then this acception of falsificationism is sensible to the same criticism** as weak verificationism, thus it is not a clear cut universal criterion of demarcation as Popper claimed. In conjunction with other criticism we can conclude that Popperian falsificationism fails to offer a clear cut criterion of demarcation between science and pseudo-science (of course it is still very useful in many practical situations but we should always make clear its limitations).


*in his criticism of logical positivist tenets he argued convincingly that verificationism does actually exclude such theories from being considered scientific

**the 'tacking problem'; we can always attach obvious metaphysical statements to (otherwise very successful empirically) systems of theories (falsifiable), thus those metaphysical statements appear as being scientific in the above mentioned context.
 
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kant said:
We can always blame one of the hypothesis that goes to making a perdiction, when the prediction does not correspond to reality.

In some cases it is enough to change only a small number of (relatively unimportant) auxiliary hypotheses* to obtain an empirically adequate, progressive, program. Since the 'core' of the old system remain basically the same we can safely say that we deal with the same scientific theory in spite of the fact that, strictly speaking, the initial system is falsified. These problems (and others) convinced many popperians to distance themselves from strict Popperian falsificationism.


*usually a falsifiable 'system' is of the form Theory + Auxiliary Hypotheses (the strong holism defended by the early Quine is too strong)
 
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