Ferguson Police Dept Routinely Violated Civil Rights

  • Context: News 
  • Thread starter Thread starter Tobias Funke
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Civil
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the findings of civil rights investigations into the Ferguson Police Department, examining issues of systemic corruption and civil rights violations. Participants explore the implications of these findings, the political landscape surrounding them, and the broader context of social justice movements.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Meta-discussion

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the findings may not lead to productive discussions, as political affiliations may bias interpretations of the Justice Department's actions.
  • One contributor argues that the local political establishment should be held accountable through elections, implying that voter engagement is crucial for change.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the report on Ferguson is not groundbreaking but rather reinforces existing narratives about systemic issues, particularly referencing Michelle Alexander's work.
  • A different viewpoint posits that the root of the problems in Ferguson is not racism but rather corruption among local officials, suggesting that economic exploitation is a significant factor.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the causes of the issues in Ferguson, with some attributing them to systemic racism and others to corruption. There is no consensus on the implications of the Justice Department's findings or the best path forward for the community.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects a range of assumptions about political motivations and the effectiveness of civil rights investigations, with participants drawing on various sources and analyses to support their claims.

Physics news on Phys.org
I'm not so sure most of us can add much of anything useful. Liberals will likely think the Justice Department is not going far enough, conservatives will likely think Justice is overreaching by far. For example, Mayor DeBlasio and former Mayor Giuliani of NYC would likely see the situation, whatever it is, vastly differently.

If most of the Ferguson establishment is Democrat, residents should think about changing that via elections if they don't like the outcomes so far. Of one thing you can be sure: the establishment, those in power, regardless of party affiliation have secured for themselves nice lives. Why would those in power change that just for the benefit of voters if the voters don't exercise their rights at the ballot box?

For comparison, look at the Republican establishment, currently scared to death about Trump. Consultants, media types, strategists, party leaders,the 'power brokers' are all at risk since Trump has not only not paid any of them, even worse, he is so far out polling all the 'best and brightest'.

Public service has become a grab bag of goodies and about all we peons can do is follow the money trail to see whose stealing the most.
 
I agree about not being able to add much that's useful, which is why I didn't really try. The purpose is mainly to vindicate those who have been saying for some time that situations like this are not uncommon, specifically the constantly smeared BLM movement. I guess I should add that the evidence has always been there and it's not as if this report is groundbreaking in terms of content---it's just harder to ignore. Probably the most famous recent analysis is Michelle Alexander's The New Jim Crow, and it's striking how perfectly she describes exactly what's happening in Ferguson.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: billy_joule
Reporter Radley Balko wrote what must be the definative in-depth article on the small town corruption in the St Louis area, published Sept '14. Real, old school investigative journalism. Someone referenced it in the original Ferguson PF thread. Conditions were not far from that having to pay the local mandarins for permission to cross the king's road.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...t-louis-county-missouri-profits-from-poverty/

I don't think racism at the root of the Missouri problems. The fundamental problem is the installation of thieves as local magistrates, and in such a case those at the economic bottom are always the first victims.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: zoobyshoe and nsaspook

Similar threads

  • · Replies 37 ·
2
Replies
37
Views
4K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 82 ·
3
Replies
82
Views
12K
  • · Replies 62 ·
3
Replies
62
Views
12K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 70 ·
3
Replies
70
Views
13K
  • · Replies 116 ·
4
Replies
116
Views
22K
  • · Replies 253 ·
9
Replies
253
Views
28K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K