Find Eigenfunctions & Eigenvalues for Momentum Operator p

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The discussion revolves around finding eigenfunctions and eigenvalues for the momentum operator in quantum mechanics. Participants explore the nature of these eigenfunctions, particularly questioning the forms of functions like \(Ae^{i(kx - wt)}\) and \(\sqrt{\frac{2}{a}} \sin(kx - wt)\), and their validity as eigenstates.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

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  • Participants discuss the general form of eigenfunctions related to the momentum operator and question whether certain functions qualify as eigenstates. There is also inquiry into the nature of the constant \(k\) and whether it must be real.

Discussion Status

The conversation includes various viewpoints on the requirements for \(k\) and the implications of the momentum operator being hermitian. Some participants provide insights into periodic boundary conditions and their relevance to the wavefunction's properties. There is an ongoing examination of the distinctions between hermitian and self-adjoint operators, with no clear consensus reached.

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Participants note that the discussion is framed within the context of revision rather than formal homework, which may influence the depth of exploration into the mathematical properties of operators.

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How would I go about finding eigenfunctions and eigenvalues for the momentum operatro p?

Is it just a case of stating Ae^i(kx-wt) is a eigenfunction and kh/2Pi is a eigen value? would (2/a)¹/²sin(kx-wt) also be a eigenfunction?

PS. This is not homework, but revision.
 
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Lee said:
How would I go about finding eigenfunctions and eigenvalues for the momentum operatro p?

Is it just a case of stating Ae^i(kx-wt) is a eigenfunction and kh/2Pi is a eigen value? would (2/a)¹/²sin(kx-wt) also be a eigenfunction?

PS. This is not homework, but revision.
the eigenfunctions are the solutions of the differential equation [itex]-i \hbar {\partial \over \partial x} f(x,t) = k f(x,t)[/itex]. The solution is clearly any function of time multiplied by [itex]e^{i k x}[/itex].
There is nothing else you can say about the function of time. And there is nothing you can say about the eigenvalue "k". It could be any real number.

As for sin(kx-wt), apply the momentum operator on this. Do you get a constant times the function back? No! So it is NOT an eigenstate of the momentum operator.
 
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Does the constant k have to be real? I would presume not but a real eigenvalue is probably more usefull than a complex one.
 
Lee said:
Does the constant k have to be real? I would presume not but a real eigenvalue is probably more usefull than a complex one.
It has to be (otherwise measuring the momentum of a particle could give a complex result! Which is physically nonsensical). The mathematical reason is that the momentum operator is hermitian, as are all observables, so its eigenvalues are real (things are actually a bit more tricky than this but that is usually the way it is presented in introductory QM courses).
 
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Along the same lines, what is ment by the periodc boundary coundition?
 
It means the geometry of the system is in such way as to insure that the wavefunction obeys certain symmetry property. That's what "periodic" refers to: the wavefunction is a periodic function.

As with "bounday", it definitely refers to the fact that the physical system under discussion is confined to a finite spatial extension, therefore exitibing "boundary conditions" .

Daniel.
 
nrqed said:
It has to be (otherwise measuring the momentum of a particle could give a complex result! Which is physically nonsensical). The mathematical reason is that the momentum operator is hermitian, as are all observables, so its eigenvalues are real (things are actually a bit more tricky than this but that is usually the way it is presented in introductory QM courses).

That's actually false. Under special conditions, the momentum operator is selfadjoint. Selfadjoint operators do indeed have a completely real spectrum.

Daniel.
 
dextercioby said:
That's actually false. Under special conditions, the momentum operator is selfadjoint. Selfadjoint operators do indeed have a completely real spectrum.

Daniel.
I know that. This the reason for the statement next after.
I di dnot think it would help the OP to get into that. But if you think it is something that needs to be gotten into at this level of introductory QM then why don't you explain carefully to the OP the distinction between hermitian and self-adjoint operators and show why it matters?:devil:

EDIT: And I suggest that you e-mail David Griffiths and tell him to rewrite his book if you are so insistent on making the distinction at the introductory QM level.
 
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