Finding a Green Function for y''+1/24y=f(x) with Bounded Conditions | Math Help

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The discussion revolves around finding a Green's function for the differential equation y'' + (1/24)y = f(x) with boundary conditions y(0) = y(π) = 0. Participants explore the implications of using a specific Green's function and the challenges encountered when applying it to a particular forcing function, f(x) = sin(x).

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  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a Green's function derived from a textbook for the equation y'' + k^2y = f(x) and applies it to the specific case of f(x) = sin(x).
  • The participant expresses concern that the integral used to find y(x) diverges for non-integer values of k^2, specifically for k^2 = 1/24.
  • Another participant questions the reasoning behind the divergence, suggesting that the integral involves trigonometric functions which should not lead to divergence.
  • A third participant speculates that the issue may stem from a misunderstanding of the integration process, particularly regarding the presence of a factor in the denominator.
  • The initial poster later acknowledges a mistake in their calculations, clarifying that the infinity encountered was due to an error in handling the limits of integration.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the nature of the divergence issue initially raised. There is a mix of confusion and clarification, with some participants questioning the validity of the divergence claim while others suggest potential errors in the calculations.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexity of integrating Green's functions, particularly when dealing with non-integer values of k^2. There are unresolved aspects regarding the specific conditions under which the integral converges or diverges.

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Hey,

I am trying to find a GF for the function:

y''+\frac{1}{24}y=f(x)

The function is bounded by:

y(0)=y(\pi)=0

I have followed a math textbook that goes through the exact process for the function:

y''+k^2y=f(x)

and have found a nice looking general solution:

G(x,x')=-\frac{sin(x/4)sin(\frac{1}{4}[\pi-x'])}{\frac{1}{4}sin(\pi/4)}

for x<x'

and

G(x,x&#039;)=-\frac{sin(x&#039;/4)sin(\frac{1}{4}[\pi-x])}{\frac{1}{4}sin(\pi/4)}

for x>x'


Now, here is my problem:

I need to find y(x) for f(x)=sin(x)

This sounds easy right, just use the Green function, multiply by f(x) and integrate over the boundary 0 to pi.

The problem is that the integral only converges for k^2 is some integer.
For non integer k^2 it seems to diverge...not good as I have k^2=1/24

I was just wandering if anyone has any suggestions?

Thanks!
 
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I...I don't see how can diverge. It's a multiplication of trigonometric functions isn't it?. How can that integral diverge?.
 
hmmmmm...maybe its just my formula table...but when you integrate there is a factor of nx on the denominator and when you plug in the limits the zero gives you infinty.
 
What formula is that? If you are integrating sin(x/4)f(x), you certainly won't get any "x" in the denominator from the sine!
 
Sorry, I figured it now...you are right. I carried an x' through into the denominator, but it should only have been the coefficient of x. That was the origin of the infinity. Thanks, for your assistance!
 

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