Finding Maximum Values: Using Calculus to Solve Quadratic Equations

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The discussion revolves around finding the maximum value of the quadratic equation -3x² - 5x + 1. Participants are exploring methods to determine this maximum value, including the use of calculus and the quadratic formula.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss using the quadratic formula and the concept of turning points to find maximum values. Some mention the relationship between the roots of the equation and the maximum point, while others suggest completing the square as an alternative method.

Discussion Status

There is an active exploration of different methods to find the maximum value, with participants sharing their attempts and reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the equation and the distinction between finding roots and maximum values.

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Participants have noted confusion regarding the equation's setup, particularly the interpretation of -3x² - 5x + 1 = 0 in relation to finding maximum values. There is also mention of using calculus concepts, though the specifics of those methods are not detailed.

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Question:
Hello, the question is to find the MAXIMUM VALUE of -3x^2-5x+1=0.

Attempt:

I tried to enter this into my calculate in Polynomial and got two values of x:
x=-1.85
and
x=0.1804

Thankyou!

See following post for attempted answer.
 
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ihopeican said:
Question:
Hello, the question is to find the MAXIMUM VALUE of -3x^2-5x+1=0.

Attempt:

I tried to enter this into my calculate in Polynomial and got two values of x:
x=-1.85
and
x=0.1804

Thankyou!

I came up with -0.8333333333.

I got this from thinking the maximum value is just the turning point (Ie: -b/2a)
 
Use the quadratic formula...
 
Using the quadratic formula to solve that equation will tell you where the value of y is 0. The x-value for maximum y will be halfway between the two roots.

By the way, you really want to find the maximum value of y= -3x^2-5x+1. An equation, like -3x^2-5x+1=0, doesn't have a "value" to begin with!

You can also find the maximum by completing the square in -3x^2-5x+1.
 
Hmm, read it wrong due to the zero... I agree that the equation doesn't have a value to begin with.
 
I used calculus to get the maximum, and I get what ihopeican got; x = -0.8333... without calculus, you can get the x value of the midpoint by -b/2a, as ihopeican suggested, or by finding the zeros of the equation and finding the average of their x values, as HallsofIvy suggested. When you get to calculus, you will learn how to use derivatives to get maximums and minimums of lots more equations, not just quadratics. It's fun, easy, and fast. XD
 

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