French Press Finally Calls it. E = MC²

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The discussion centers around the recent corroboration of Einstein's equation E=mc², highlighting a computational study that estimates the mass of protons and neutrons. The conversation touches on the implications of this finding within the context of particle physics and the nature of mass and energy.

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  • Some participants note that a consortium of physicists has confirmed E=mc² through calculations involving quarks and gluons, suggesting that the energy from their interactions accounts for the majority of mass.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the relevance of this finding, questioning the motivations of theorists in light of existing applications of E=mc² in atomic bombs and fission reactors.
  • Another participant humorously suggests that theorists should focus on evolutionary theory next, implying a critique of their priorities.
  • A participant points out that there is already an existing discussion on this topic in the Relativity forum, indicating that the conversation may be repetitive.

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The discussion reflects a mix of technical interest and skepticism, with no clear consensus on the significance of the findings or the motivations behind the research. Multiple competing views remain regarding the implications of E=mc² and the focus of theoretical physics.

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Participants express varying levels of engagement with the implications of the study, and there is an indication that some may not fully appreciate the complexities involved in the relationship between mass and energy as described by the findings.

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Phew. And not a moment too late.
AFP said:
e=mc2: 103 years later, Einstein's proven right

Thu Nov 20, 6:56 pm ET
PARIS (AFP) – It's taken more than a century, but Einstein's celebrated formula e=mc2 has finally been corroborated, thanks to a heroic computational effort by French, German and Hungarian physicists.

A brainpower consortium led by Laurent Lellouch of France's Centre for Theoretical Physics, using some of the world's mightiest supercomputers, have set down the calculations for estimating the mass of protons and neutrons, the particles at the nucleus of atoms.

According to the conventional model of particle physics, protons and neutrons comprise smaller particles known as quarks, which in turn are bound by gluons.

The odd thing is this: the mass of gluons is zero and the mass of quarks is only five percent. Where, therefore, is the missing 95 percent?

The answer, according to the study published in the US journal Science on Thursday, comes from the energy from the movements and interactions of quarks and gluons.

In other words, energy and mass are equivalent, as Einstein proposed in his Special Theory of Relativity in 1905.

The e=mc2 formula shows that mass can be converted into energy, and energy can be converted into mass.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20081120/sc_afp/sciencephysicseinstein_081120235605??
 
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So atomic bombs and fission reactors weren't enough for them. Pfft, theorists.
 
Maybe we should get them working on evolution next.
 
There is already a thread on this in the Relativity forum.

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