Galactic Plane Crossings and Mass Extinctions: Is There a Connection?

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The discussion explores the relationship between the Solar System's movement through the galactic plane and potential connections to mass extinctions on Earth. Participants raise questions about the nature of this movement, its periodicity, and the implications for celestial dynamics and extinction events.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the Solar System's travel above and below the galactic plane follows a sinusoidal rhythm and seeks to understand the period of this movement.
  • Another participant suggests that the Solar System's orbit around the galactic core is complex, with a general period of approximately 200 million years for one complete orbit, implying a corresponding rise and fall in the galactic plane.
  • A different viewpoint indicates that the Sun crosses the galactic plane multiple times during its orbit, estimating a crossing every 65 million years.
  • Some participants speculate about the potential connection between the Solar System's galactic movement and mass extinctions, with one suggesting that gravitational interactions could alter the orbits of objects in the Solar System, leading to increased impact risks.
  • There is mention of existing theories linking the Solar System's position in the Orion Arm to extinction events, although no consensus is reached on this connection.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the nature and implications of the Solar System's movement through the galactic plane, with no consensus on the exact periodicity or its connection to mass extinctions. Multiple competing theories and hypotheses are presented without resolution.

Contextual Notes

Discussions include assumptions about the complexity of galactic dynamics and the influence of local star densities, as well as the lack of definitive evidence linking galactic crossings to extinction events.

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Hi All
I have a few questions. Please correct me where needed. I'm new to posting here and have a basic understanding of astronomy.

Question 1.

The Solar system no doubt travels above and below the galactic plane as it makes it's way around. Do we know if there is say a sinusoidal rhythm to this travel and what would that period be?

Question 2.

Discover magazine reported the discovery of a galaxy that the Milky Way is in the process of consuming. Does anyone know if or when the solar system crosses the plane of this other galaxy?

Thanks

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1] If the solar system is in orbit around the galactic core, as is everything else, it will be an elliptic (nearly circular) orbit. So, it will rise and fall just once for every orbit - at its perihelion and aphelion, just like any other body does when orbiting its parent. I believe the only way it could do otherwise is if it is locked in a orbit with other, closer bodies such as a local cluster of stars.

But this is overly simplifying. I expect that the movement of the SS around the galaxy is very complex and subtle, depending much more on local star densities than on an elliptical orbit.

BTW, the galaxy makes one rotation about every 200My. The simple answer to your question is that it bobs up and down once every 200My.

2] I believe that other galaxy has no disc to speak of; it is an elliptical (what's left of its original shape anyway).
 
Unlike a planet orbiting the Sun, the Sun actually crosses an ascending node and a descending node in its galactic orbit several times per orbit. I forget how many times. I think it crosses the galactic plane every 65 million years.
 
Hm. Yeah OK.

I've been thinking - it probably interacts with the local spiral arm more than the galactic core, so I agree.
 
I wonder if there is a relation of our systems travel around the galaxy to mass extinctions?
 
You are not the first person to wonder this. It's a theory that's been put forth.

Google 'orion arm extinction'
 
Qmon said:
I wonder if there is a relation of our systems travel around the galaxy to mass extinctions?


When the solar system moves up or down in the galactic plane it can cause objects orbiting the system to change direction (mostly objects on the outer edge of the system) as they interact with gravity from other systems. Some times those objects can be sent out of their current orbit, and they end up on a path that takes them through the relative center of the system. This leads to a greater posability of impacts, and could obviously lead to disaster for any planet in it's path. I believe it is one theory as to how the dinosaurs went extinct.
 

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