Gamma matrices and how they operate

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The discussion revolves around the properties and representations of gamma matrices, specifically the Dirac matrices. The user initially questions the relationship between the matrices, particularly the equation βrepαkrep=γkrep, and expresses confusion about the implications of obtaining a null matrix from their calculations. After further examination, they realize their earlier calculations were incorrect, leading to a non-null result. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding matrix representations in quantum mechanics and the nuances of working with gamma matrices. Ultimately, the user acknowledges their mistakes and seeks clarity on the topic.
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Homework Statement



Just a matter of convention (question)

Homework Equations



\gamma^0 = \begin{pmatrix} 1 & 0 & 0 & 0 \\0 & 1 & 0 & 0 \\0 & 0 & -1 & 0 \\0 & 0 & 0 & -1 \end{pmatrix}

The Attempt at a Solution



If then,

\gamma^0 = \begin{pmatrix} 1 & 0 & 0 & 0 \\0 & 1 & 0 & 0 \\0 & 0 & -1 & 0 \\0 & 0 & 0 & -1 \end{pmatrix}

and \gamma^0 is just \beta and \beta \alpha^k = \gamma^k is it true then that

\gamma^k = \begin{pmatrix} 1 & 0 & 0 & 0 \\0 & 1 & 0 & 0 \\0 & 0 & -1 & 0 \\0 & 0 & 0 & -1 \end{pmatrix}\alpha^k
 
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Can no one confirm I have done this right?
 
Isn't the particular form of a Dirac matrix representation dependent ? So then only the general relations will hold, i.e.

βrepαkrepkrep

where i/o <rep> one has the Dirac, Majorana or Weyl/chiral representations.
 
dextercioby said:
Isn't the particular form of a Dirac matrix representation dependent ? So then only the general relations will hold, i.e.

βrepαkrepkrep

where i/o <rep> one has the Dirac, Majorana or Weyl/chiral representations.

I think so. I think you have to work with D(\psi(x,t)) on the three matrices \gamma^1,\gamma^2,\gamma^3 to get back the matrix i\gamma^0 \begin{pmatrix} 1 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\0 &amp; 1 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\0 &amp; 0 &amp; -1 &amp; 0\\ 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; -1 \end{pmatrix}

which when squared gives you the chirality.
 
Now I am really confused: consider the matrix form of a^k and calculate it all out we have

\begin{pmatrix} 1 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\0 &amp; 1 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\0 &amp; 0 &amp; -1 &amp; 0 \\0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; -1 \end{pmatrix}\begin{pmatrix} 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 1 &amp; 0 \\0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; -1 \\0 &amp; 1 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\1 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \end{pmatrix} = \begin{pmatrix} 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \end{pmatrix}

A nullified matrix?

Have I got my a^k matrix right... ?
 
a^k is just a submatrix, right? of

0_2 sigma^k

\sigma^k 0_2

k=1,2,3

in my case, 1 and 3
 
I just don't understand why the relationship

\beta \alpha^k = \gamma^k

would be important if it spat out a zero matrix, which makes me wonder strongly whether I even have the right conditions down.
 
help1please said:
\begin{pmatrix} 1 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\0 &amp; 1 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\0 &amp; 0 &amp; -1 &amp; 0 \\0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; -1 \end{pmatrix}\begin{pmatrix} 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 1 &amp; 0 \\0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; -1 \\0 &amp; 1 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\1 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \end{pmatrix} = \begin{pmatrix} 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \end{pmatrix}

A nullified matrix?

You will not get the null matrix. For example, check the element in the first row, third column of the resultant matrix.
 
I'm sorry, I did it all wrong didn't I? I now get

\begin{pmatrix} 1 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\0 &amp; 1 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\0 &amp; 0 &amp; -1 &amp; 0 \\0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; -1 \end{pmatrix}\begin{pmatrix} 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 1 &amp; 0 \\0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; -1 \\0 &amp; 1 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\1 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \end{pmatrix} = \begin{pmatrix} 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 1 &amp; 0 \\0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; -1 \\0 &amp; -1 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \\-1 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 \end{pmatrix}


I am an idiot some times lol
 

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