General solution of 1D vs 3D wave equations

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The discussion centers on the differences between the 1D and 3D wave equations, specifically the forms of their solutions. The 1D wave equation is expressed as $$\frac{\partial^2 u}{\partial x ^2} - \frac{1}{c^2}\frac{\partial ^2 u }{\partial t^2} = 0$$, with solutions of the form ##u(x \pm ct)##. In contrast, the 3D wave equation $$\nabla ^2 u - \frac{1}{c^2}\frac{\partial ^2 u }{\partial t^2} = 0$$ allows for more complex solutions, including spherical waves represented as ##u = A/r \; \mathrm{exp}[-i(kr - vt)]##. The discussion highlights the conservation of energy principle, explaining why the magnitude of spherical waves decreases as they expand, a phenomenon not applicable to 1D waves.

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For the 1 dimensional wave equation,

$$\frac{\partial^2 u}{\partial x ^2} - \frac{1}{c^2}\frac{\partial ^2 u }{\partial t^2} = 0$$

##u## is of the form ##u(x \pm ct)##
For the 3 dimensional wave equation however,
$$\nabla ^2 u - \frac{1}{c^2}\frac{\partial ^2 u }{\partial t^2} = 0$$It appears that solutions need not be of the form ## u(\vec{k} \cdot \vec{r} - \nu t) ##, for instance spherical waves ## u = A/r \; \mathrm{exp}[-i(kr - vt)] ##

Am I right? Why is it so?
 
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Conservation of energy. A spherical wave spatial expands so it’s magnitude needs to decrease.
 
Frabjous said:
Conservation of energy. A spherical wave spatial expands so it’s magnitude needs to decrease.

But why doesn't it apply to the 1-dimensional case?
 
yucheng said:
But why doesn't it apply to the 1-dimensional case?
Take a distance r from the origin. For a spherical wave, things are spread out on the surface of a sphere with surface area 4πr2. On a line, things are still located at a single point.
 
yucheng said:
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For the 1 dimensional wave equation,

$$\frac{\partial^2 u}{\partial x ^2} - \frac{1}{c^2}\frac{\partial ^2 u }{\partial t^2} = 0$$

##u## is of the form ##u(x \pm ct)##
For the 3 dimensional wave equation however,
$$\nabla ^2 u - \frac{1}{c^2}\frac{\partial ^2 u }{\partial t^2} = 0$$It appears that solutions need not be of the form ## u(\vec{k} \cdot \vec{r} - \nu t) ##, for instance spherical waves ## u = A/r \; \mathrm{exp}[-i(kr - vt)] ##

Am I right? Why is it so?

The change of variable \zeta = x + ct, \eta = x - ct turns the 1D wave equation into <br /> \frac{\partial^2 u}{\partial \zeta\,\partial \eta} = 0 with general soluton <br /> u = f(\zeta) + g(\eta) = f(x + ct) + g(x-ct). There is no equivalent of this change of variable in 2 or more spatial dimensions, so other types of solution are possible. In particular, solutions of the form u(\mathbf{x},t) = f(\mathbf{x})e^{\pm i\omega t} are possible where f satisfies <br /> \nabla^2 f + \frac{\omega^2}{c^2}f = 0. This equation separates in many coordinate systems, and only in cartesians do we get solutions of the form f(\mathbf{x}) = \int_{\|\mathbf{k}\| = \omega/c}A(\mathbf{k})e^{i\mathbf{k}\cdot \mathbf{x}}\,dS so that <br /> u(\mathbf{x},t) = \int_{\|\mathbf{k}\| = \omega/c}A(\mathbf{k})e^{i(\mathbf{k}\cdot \mathbf{x} \pm \omega t)} \,dS. In 3D with spherical symmetry it can be shown that u(r,t)/r satisfies the 1D wave equation, with general solution as above.
 
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pasmith said:
1D wave equation
1D wave equation? Really?
 
yucheng said:
1D wave equation? Really?
Oops let me quote it in context...

pasmith said:
In 3D with spherical symmetry it can be shown that u(r,t)/r satisfies the 1D wave equation
Should it really be called 1D? I mean after a change of variables from Cartesian to spherical, then taking the partial derivatives with respect to ##\theta## and ##\phi## as zero, we get an ODE, but...
 
yucheng said:
Should it really be called 1D?
Some people do, some people don’t. You shouldn’t let semantics bother you.
 
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