Undergrad General solution of 1D vs 3D wave equations

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The discussion centers on the differences between the solutions of the 1D and 3D wave equations. In 1D, solutions take the form u(x ± ct), while in 3D, solutions can include spherical waves, which require a decrease in magnitude due to energy conservation as they expand over a larger surface area. The transformation of variables in the 1D case allows for a straightforward solution, unlike in higher dimensions where more complex forms arise. The conversation also touches on the semantics of labeling the equations as 1D or not, particularly when considering spherical symmetry. Overall, the key distinction lies in the dimensionality affecting the nature of the wave solutions.
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For the 1 dimensional wave equation,

$$\frac{\partial^2 u}{\partial x ^2} - \frac{1}{c^2}\frac{\partial ^2 u }{\partial t^2} = 0$$

##u## is of the form ##u(x \pm ct)##
For the 3 dimensional wave equation however,
$$\nabla ^2 u - \frac{1}{c^2}\frac{\partial ^2 u }{\partial t^2} = 0$$It appears that solutions need not be of the form ## u(\vec{k} \cdot \vec{r} - \nu t) ##, for instance spherical waves ## u = A/r \; \mathrm{exp}[-i(kr - vt)] ##

Am I right? Why is it so?
 
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Conservation of energy. A spherical wave spatial expands so it’s magnitude needs to decrease.
 
Frabjous said:
Conservation of energy. A spherical wave spatial expands so it’s magnitude needs to decrease.

But why doesn't it apply to the 1-dimensional case?
 
yucheng said:
But why doesn't it apply to the 1-dimensional case?
Take a distance r from the origin. For a spherical wave, things are spread out on the surface of a sphere with surface area 4πr2. On a line, things are still located at a single point.
 
yucheng said:
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For the 1 dimensional wave equation,

$$\frac{\partial^2 u}{\partial x ^2} - \frac{1}{c^2}\frac{\partial ^2 u }{\partial t^2} = 0$$

##u## is of the form ##u(x \pm ct)##
For the 3 dimensional wave equation however,
$$\nabla ^2 u - \frac{1}{c^2}\frac{\partial ^2 u }{\partial t^2} = 0$$It appears that solutions need not be of the form ## u(\vec{k} \cdot \vec{r} - \nu t) ##, for instance spherical waves ## u = A/r \; \mathrm{exp}[-i(kr - vt)] ##

Am I right? Why is it so?

The change of variable \zeta = x + ct, \eta = x - ct turns the 1D wave equation into <br /> \frac{\partial^2 u}{\partial \zeta\,\partial \eta} = 0 with general soluton <br /> u = f(\zeta) + g(\eta) = f(x + ct) + g(x-ct). There is no equivalent of this change of variable in 2 or more spatial dimensions, so other types of solution are possible. In particular, solutions of the form u(\mathbf{x},t) = f(\mathbf{x})e^{\pm i\omega t} are possible where f satisfies <br /> \nabla^2 f + \frac{\omega^2}{c^2}f = 0. This equation separates in many coordinate systems, and only in cartesians do we get solutions of the form f(\mathbf{x}) = \int_{\|\mathbf{k}\| = \omega/c}A(\mathbf{k})e^{i\mathbf{k}\cdot \mathbf{x}}\,dS so that <br /> u(\mathbf{x},t) = \int_{\|\mathbf{k}\| = \omega/c}A(\mathbf{k})e^{i(\mathbf{k}\cdot \mathbf{x} \pm \omega t)} \,dS. In 3D with spherical symmetry it can be shown that u(r,t)/r satisfies the 1D wave equation, with general solution as above.
 
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pasmith said:
1D wave equation
1D wave equation? Really?
 
yucheng said:
1D wave equation? Really?
Oops let me quote it in context...

pasmith said:
In 3D with spherical symmetry it can be shown that u(r,t)/r satisfies the 1D wave equation
Should it really be called 1D? I mean after a change of variables from Cartesian to spherical, then taking the partial derivatives with respect to ##\theta## and ##\phi## as zero, we get an ODE, but...
 
yucheng said:
Should it really be called 1D?
Some people do, some people don’t. You shouldn’t let semantics bother you.
 
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