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- time dilatation inside the sun
How can time dilation, lets say 500000 km inside the sun be calculated ?
The discussion revolves around calculating gravitational time dilation at a depth of 500,000 km inside the Sun. Participants explore theoretical frameworks, assumptions, and potential models for this calculation, focusing on the interior Schwarzschild metric and other approaches.
Participants express varying opinions on the appropriateness of the interior Schwarzschild metric and the need for numerical methods, indicating that there is no consensus on the best approach for calculating time dilation in this context.
The discussion highlights limitations related to assumptions about density and pressure profiles, as well as the implications of treating the Sun as a non-rotating sphere.
To do much better you'd need a density and pressure profile, and I would suspect you'd have to do it numerically. Especially if you stopped pretending it was a non-rotating sphere.Dale said:One of the assumptions is constant density, so that probably isn’t the best assumption, but it should be a reasonable approximation given the resulting simplification
Yes. I agree that anything more exact than this would probably have to be numerical.Ibix said:To do much better you'd need a density and pressure profile, and I would suspect you'd have to do it numerically. Especially if you stopped pretending it was a non-rotating sphere.
Here:Ibix said:Is ##n## (23.28c and d) defined somewhere? Number density of particles?
Ibix said:To do much better you'd need a density and pressure profile, and I would suspect you'd have to do it numerically. Especially if you stopped pretending it was a non-rotating sphere.
Dale said:This would be the interior Schwarzschild metric:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interior_Schwarzschild_metric
One of the assumptions is constant density, so that probably isn’t the best assumption, but it should be a reasonable approximation given the resulting simplification
The weak field approximation is going to be way more accurate than the interior Schwarzschild metric in this case. Input a solar model for the density and voila.Dale said:Yes. I agree that anything more exact than this would probably have to be numerical.
I have to admit that it didn’t even occur to me!Orodruin said:The weak field approximation is going to be way more accurate than the interior Schwarzschild metric in this case. Input a solar model for the density and voila.