Gravitons vs photons: Does the size of the atom make any difference?

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The discussion explores the relationship between atomic size and the absorption of photons, as well as the potential implications for gravitons. Participants examine whether the size or mass of an atom influences its interaction with photons, particularly in terms of electron excitation.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the appropriateness of using the term "size" to describe atoms, suggesting that atomic structure is more complex than simple geometric shapes.
  • It is proposed that the absorption or scattering of photons by an atom is contingent on interactions with charged particles, which are considered point-like in the case of electrons.
  • One participant raises the idea that atomic mass might affect photon absorption, positing that more electrons in an atom could lead to increased photon absorption due to electron excitation.
  • Another participant queries whether the number of electrons in an atom influences the absorption of photons, indicating a potential link between electron count and photon interaction.

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Participants express differing views on the relevance of atomic size and mass in photon absorption, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the complexity of atomic structure and the nature of particle interactions, suggesting that assumptions about size and mass may not fully capture the underlying physics.

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Does the size of the atom make any difference?
Hi, does the size of the atom make any difference to whether a photon gets absorbed or not? Hence would that be the same for a graviton.
 
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An atom isn’t a little round ball so we want to be cautious about using words like “size” - there’s a notion of atomic size but it’s not quite like what we mean when we talk about the size of a billiard ball.

Whether a photon is absorbed or scattered by an atom depends on how it interacts with the individual charged particles that make up the atom, and these are close to (in the case of the electron exactly, as far as we know) point particles. So the answer to your question is somewhere between “that’s not a good way of thinking about it” and “no”.
 
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Does the atomic mass of an atom change the amount of photons it absorbs? ie if the photons kick electrons into a higher energy level, doesn't the number of electrons in the atom mean more photons get aborbed
 
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An atom isn’t a little round ball so we want to be cautious about using words like “size” - there’s a notion of atomic size but it’s not quite like what we mean when we talk about the size of a billiard ball.

Whether a photon is absorbed or scattered by an atom depends on how it interacts with the individual charged particles that make up the atom, and these are close to (in the case of the electron exactly, as far as we know) point particles. So the answer to your question is somewhere between “that’s not a good way of thinking about it” and “no”.
how about electrons? Does the number of electrons change the way a photon gets absorbed?
 

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