Happy Friday the 13th: End Triskaidekaphobia Today!

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The thread discusses triskaidekaphobia, particularly in relation to the occurrence of the 13th day of the month falling on Fridays within the Gregorian Calendar. Participants explore mathematical reasoning, anecdotal experiences, and programming approaches to analyze the frequency of Fridays on the 13th.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express frustration with triskaidekaphobia, questioning its rationality and sharing personal anecdotes related to the number 13.
  • One participant mentions a calculus exercise related to the Gregorian Calendar, suggesting that the 13th of a month is statistically more likely to be a Friday than any other day.
  • Another participant seeks proof of the claim regarding the frequency of Fridays on the 13th, prompting further mathematical exploration.
  • Mathematical calculations are presented to demonstrate the cyclical nature of the calendar and the distribution of weekdays over a 400-year span, indicating that the frequency of the 13th falling on each day of the week can be analyzed through this cycle.
  • A participant shares a simple C program that counts the occurrences of the 13th falling on each day of the week, providing empirical data to support the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the proof of the frequency of Fridays on the 13th, and there are multiple approaches and calculations presented without resolution of the claims made.

Contextual Notes

Some mathematical steps and assumptions regarding the Gregorian Calendar and leap years are discussed, but not all details are fully resolved or agreed upon.

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Anybody else tired of triskaidekaphobia?

I once chose an airplane seat in row 14 just because I find it ridiculous. Don't people realize that whatever you call it, it's still the 13th row?
 
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I'm hiding under the bed (I know the bed can fall on me!). Is it safe, yet?
 
nuuskur said:
Is it safe, yet?
That depends on your time zone :wink:
 
Reminds me of one of the first exercises in my calculus book (1.5.).

Show that in the Gregorian Calendar (... explanation of leap years ...) the 13th of a month in the long term average is more frequently a Friday than any other day. (Hint: Gauß was born on a Wednesday.)

I wonder whether Pope Gregor XIII. (sic!) knew this. The Friday anomaly, not Gauß' birthday of course.
 
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fresh_42 said:
Show that in the Gregorian Calendar (... explanation of leap years ...) the 13th of a month in the long term average is more frequently a Friday than any other day. (Hint: Gauß was born on a Wednesday.)
Really? I'd like to see the proof of that.
 
DrClaude said:
Really? I'd like to see the proof of that.
In a four year cycle you have 365*4 + 1 = 1461 days.
In a one hundred year cycle you have 25 * 1461 - 1 = 36524 days.
In a four hundred year cycle you have 4 * 36524 + 1 = 146097 days.

146097 is a multiple of 7 -- there are a exactly 20871 weeks in 400 Gregorian years. The day of the week for Jan 1 2000 will match the day of the week for Jan 1 2400.

It follows that if one [laboriously] tots up the number of Monday the 13ths, Tuesday the 13ths, etc for any given 400 year span, the frequency over that 400 year span will match the long term average.

Edit: One likely could accelerate the crank and grind labor by starting at March 1 2000 and noting that there are only 14 year types (all identical except for the weekday of March 1 and whether Feb 29 exists and that they repeat in a standard cycle every 28 years [almost - look out for century years]. So if you can look at a calendar and tot up the 13'ths for one year, you are already halfway there.
 
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DrClaude said:
Really? I'd like to see the proof of that.
It's at the end of the first chapter about induction, therefore the base of Gauß' birthday. However, they mention that it's less an exercise of induction rather than correct counting.
 
Since I failed Laborious 101 and wanted to see the "magnitude", wrote simple C program using @jbriggs444 parameters as specified:
Code:
$ ./sumdow
Count of calendar days for 13th
Sun  Mon  Tue  Wed  Thu  Fri  Sat
687  685  685  687  684  688  684
 
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