How Did Saartjie Baartman Influence Victorian Fashion?

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The discussion centers around the influence of Saartjie Baartman on Victorian fashion, particularly the Victorian bustle dress. It explores the historical context of body image perceptions in different cultures and how these perceptions may have shaped fashion trends in the 19th century.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that Saartjie Baartman's body shape, characterized by full breasts, narrow waist, and large buttocks, was viewed negatively by Europeans yet may have inspired the Victorian bustle dress.
  • Others argue that the relationship between Baartman and the bustle dress could be coincidental, suggesting that fashion evolves from various influences rather than a single source.
  • One participant highlights the broader implications of body image standards, noting the contrast between African and Western ideals of beauty and the impact on consumer satisfaction in fashion.
  • There are references to historical fashion elements such as crinolines, panniers, and farthingales, indicating a discussion on the evolution of dress styles over time.
  • Concerns are raised about proper citation practices when referencing sources in the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether Saartjie Baartman was a direct inspiration for the Victorian bustle dress. Multiple competing views remain regarding the influence of her body shape on fashion trends.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes unresolved questions about the historical accuracy of claims regarding Baartman's influence and the complexities of body image perceptions across cultures.

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In most African countries, it is still a common belief that thin women are not attractive. Until the 21st century, full-figured women were considered attractive, were respected, and their padded (with flesh) and curvaceous bodies represented wealth, fertility and good health. The western society views a thin woman as ideal body and has forced many women including Africans to believe that a body that deviates from it is unaccepted. Fashion designers use the thin model as a basis from which to create ready-to-wear clothing for all consumers including those whose body characteristics do not comply with the ideal body features. This has resulted in unsatisfied consumers with clothing sold in the retail stores and negative reactions towards their bodies. The problem of ideal body versus un-ideal body shape date back to 19th Century, where Saartjie Baartman’s body shape characterised by full breasts, narrow waist and extra large buttocks was viewed by Europeans as ugly, yet later on, the same body, though not acknowledged, was used to inspire the creation of Victorian bustle dress that resembled her body in every aspect. This article examines the relationship between the Victorian Bustle dress that became popular from 1870 onwards and the unique body features of Saartjie Baartman, an African slave who was displayed in Europe against her wish as from 1810 to 1815, and even after her death, her body continued to be exhibited in a Museum in Paris. This paper concludes that her body could have inspired the development of the Victorian bustle dress. The paper encourages African women to view their bodies sensibly rather than basing their beauty on the western standard ideologies. Likewise, promotional media houses are encouraged to portray all body shapes fairly and positively. African researchers are advised to search beyond surfaces of historical events for the purposes of documenting underlying important facts affecting Africa.

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physicssx, when you copy and paste verbatim from another source, you need to show that. I have corrected your post.
 
Evo said:
physicssx, when you copy and paste verbatim from another source, you need to show that. I have corrected your post.
Hi Evo, I will pay attention to this. Thank you very much.
 
physicssx said:
... the same body, though not acknowledged, was used to inspire the creation of Victorian bustle dress that resembled her body in every aspect...

Fashion is a fickle business, which can get it's ideas from anywhere and everywhere. Whether Saartjie Baartman was the inspiration or not of the Victorian bustle dress, or just a coincidence of dress "evolution", it is interesting to look at the styles throughtout earlier times.

http://www.fashion-era.com/bustles.htm
http://www.victoriana.com/Victorian-Fashion/victorianbustles.html

Before that there was the crinoline
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crinoline
220px-1856crnl.gif


And of course the pannier, which extended the sides of the dress, but not the front or back.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pannier_(clothing )
170px-MarieAntoinette_by_VigeeLeBrun.jpg


we can't leave out the farthingale, in Tudor time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farthingale
180px-Elizabethditchley.jpg


Some wedding dresses, and others for special occasions, conjure up some aspect of these styles.
 
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