How do you calculate annuity payments with a 5% increment each year?

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The discussion revolves around calculating annuity payments that increase by 5% each year, specifically in the context of a hypothetical Powerball jackpot of 1.5 billion dollars distributed over 30 payments. Participants explore the mathematical formulation required to determine the initial payment amount under these conditions.

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  • One participant notes that the annuity payments are incremented by 5% each year and seeks to understand how to calculate these payments.
  • Another participant proposes a formula involving a geometric series to express the payments, suggesting that the amount in the k-th year can be represented as ##a_k = \lambda^{k-1}a_1##.
  • A participant confirms that the payments are increasing, providing a breakdown of the first two years' payments as Year 1 = x and Year 2 = x + (x * 0.05).
  • Further clarification is provided on setting ##\lambda = 1.05## and using the geometric sum to solve for the initial payment amount ##a_1##.
  • One participant expresses confusion about their calculations, initially believing they had correctly set up the equation but later questioning their approach.
  • Another participant corrects the misunderstanding, emphasizing the need to evaluate the geometric sum to solve for ##a_1## accurately.

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There is no consensus on the correct approach to solving for the initial payment amount, as participants express differing levels of understanding and clarity regarding the mathematical formulation. Some participants correct earlier claims without reaching a definitive conclusion.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the need to evaluate the geometric sum and its implications for solving the problem, indicating that there may be unresolved mathematical steps in their reasoning.

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So, unless you've been living under a rock, you should know the jackpot for the powerball is at 1.5 billion dollars.

I was looking up the distribution of annuity payments and the website said that the payments are not equally distributed. They are incremented by 5% each year.

Like the nerd I am, I tried figuring out the math but didn't know where to start.

I know that 1.5 billion / 30 payments = 50 million a year (before taxes)

How would you go about figuring out 30 payments equating to 1.5 billion but the condition is that each payment is 5% more than the next?
 
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NameIsUnique said:
They are incremented by 5% each year.
NameIsUnique said:
the condition is that each payment is 5% more than the next?
Is the amount increasing or decreasing in time?

If the total amount is ##p## (= 1.5 billion dollars) and the rate of increase / decrease is ##\lambda## (= 1.05 or 0.95) and your amount in the ##k##th year is ##a_k##, then ##a_k = \lambda^{k-1}a_1## for ##k = 1,\ldots,n## where ##n## is the amount of years. Now set ##\sum_{k=1}^n{a_k} = p## (geometric sum) and solve for ##a_1##.
 
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Increasing.

Year 1 = x
Year 2 = x +(x* 0.05)
and keeps incrementing until 1.5 billion
 
Ok, so then you set ##\lambda = 1.05##, take the geometric sum and solve the equation for ##a_1##. Once ##a_1## is known, use the formula for ##a_k## to compute the amount in year ##k##.
 
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Thanks a lot!
 
Don't mention it. Just be sure to let me know if you win the jackpot :wink:
 
Krylov said:
Don't mention it. Just be sure to let me know if you win the jackpot :wink:
I just plugged it in year one

I think I'm doing it wrong.

1.5 billion = (1.05) ^ (1-1) * a1

and I solve for a1?

It seems like I get 1.5 billion
 
Nvm I get it.
 
No, that is not correct. You need to solve
$$
a_1\sum_{k=1}^n{\lambda^{k-1}} = p
$$
First you need to evaluate the sum, using the standard formula for the geometric sum. I leave that up to you as a challenge. Once that is done, you can solve for ##a_1##.
 
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Nvm I get it.
Ok, very well!
 

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