How Do You Simplify This Vector Expression?

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The discussion revolves around the simplification of a vector expression involving the dot product and vector norms. Participants explore the properties of the dot product and the order of operations in vector calculations.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a vector expression to simplify, specifically (4u + 3v) ⋅ (4u − 2v) − ||3u − 4v||².
  • Another participant questions the equivalence of the inner product and the dot product, seeking clarification on relevant formulas.
  • A participant confirms that the inner product is indeed the dot product in real spaces and discusses the order of operations, noting that dot product has a higher precedence than addition/subtraction.
  • One participant references external resources, specifically a Wikipedia article, to provide additional properties of the dot product.
  • A later reply details the simplification process, breaking down the expression into components and combining like terms, but does not present a final answer.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the properties of the dot product and its equivalence to the inner product in real spaces. However, the discussion remains unresolved regarding the complete simplification of the original expression.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the application of order of operations in vector calculations and the specific steps involved in simplifying the expression.

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I'm trying to simplify the following expression:

(4u + 3v) ⋅ (4u − 2v) − ll 3u − 4v ll2

And I'm unsure how to proceed.
 
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Assuming the dot represents the inner product, what formulas do you know that give the properties of the inner product?
 
Is the inner product equivalent to the dot product? The only relevant formula I know is the that of the dot product, but I am unsure of how to apply order of operations when dealing with vectors.
 
Yes, the inner product is the dot product (in the case of real spaces). Dot product is a multiplication, so it has a higher order then addition/subtraction, and the same order as multiplication by a scalar.
 
Thanks folks, I solved it. The process included taking the inside terms of the entire first term and dotting them with the entire second term as follows:
(4u + 3v) ⋅ (4u − 2v)
[4u ⋅ (4u − 2v)] + [3v ⋅ (4u − 2v)]
16u2 - 8u⋅v + 12u⋅v - 6v2

and for the second part, ll 3u − 4v ll2 is equivalent to (3u - 4v)⋅(3u - 4v), and it's the same process as above. Then, just combine like terms.
 

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