How Does Energy Relate to Matter, Fields, and Photons?

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This discussion centers on the relationship between energy, matter, fields, and photons, particularly in the context of high-energy physics. Participants clarify that high-energy gamma rays (above 1.022 MeV) can indeed create matter, specifically electron-positron pairs, through a process known as pair production. The conversation also emphasizes that energy is distinct from fields and matter, and that the vacuum in quantum field theory contains virtual particles, challenging the notion of complete emptiness. The equation E=mc² is discussed as a conversion formula, but its application is nuanced and context-dependent.

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Have three easy questions.
1. When converting mass to energy, is this energy equivalent to the term field. To we get photons (lots of them and high energetic) for matter?
2. Creating matter/ particles requires energy. Again, what is meant here by energy? Colliding two particles very fast yields new matter, right? Can high energy fields (gamma rays) create real matter? If so, how and where (in matter and vacuum?)?
3. Virtual matter can be created in vacuum. Does vacuum mean complete nothingness devoid also of photons? Or is it that photons turn into mater for a moment depending on how much energy they carry?

Utterly confused I ask you clever people for help.
 
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Can high energy fields (gamma rays) create real matter? If so, how and where (in matter and vacuum?)?

High energy (above 1.022 Mev) gamma rays can form electron-positron pairs in the presence of matter, such as lead - used for shielding.
Right after the big bang, particle-antiparticle pairs were formed when pairs of gamma rays collided together.
 
hello world?

Thank you mathman for replying, but I also would like to know why and how that’s happening.
Why is no one else answering here?
1. questions too silly
2. too unclear formulated
3.not interesting enough
4.you can’t answer them
5. too basic, insult your intelligence
 
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I didn't answer because I only just read your post

Ratzinger said:
1. When converting mass to energy, is this energy equivalent to the term field. Do we get photons (lots of them and high energetic) for matter?

There are a few different processes that do it and I'm not sure which you are referring to. Nuclear fission, fusion and decay or annihilation of anti matter can all produce gamma rays (high energy photons). Each of these are a separate topic.

Ratzinger said:
2. Creating matter/ particles requires energy. Again, what is meant here by energy? Colliding two particles very fast yields new matter, right? Can high energy fields (gamma rays) create real matter? If so, how and where (in matter and vacuum?)?

"Colliding particles" sounds like you are thinking of particle accellerators. If I recall correctly, you can get Muons just from an ordinary electron with a lot of kinetic energy (without any collisions). Sometimes collisions create new particles, but not in everyday situations. Gamma rays with enough energy like to create electrons and positrons. The process is called pair production if you want to look it up.

Ratzinger said:
3. Virtual matter can be created in vacuum. Does vacuum mean complete nothingness devoid also of photons? Or is it that photons turn into mater for a moment depending on how much energy they carry?

The definition of a vacuum can be argued over. Vacuum is really complete nothingness but we know that what we normally call "vacuum" can have stuff in it. More stuff, if you include things that aren't there for very long. Also there is a lot of empty space in ordinary stuff. But you won't get any energy or any matter out of a good vacuum though. Not for keeps anyway.

Ratzinger said:
Utterly confused I ask you clever people for help.

Most ordinary people get confused by this stuff. I'm a novice myself :biggrin:
 
E=mc^2

Thank you jackle for answering. Things getting clearer. So just for the record: the E in E=mc^2 stands for energy in form of photons. So E=mc^2 is the conversion formula of matter into photons? Could just one of you give me confirmation on that, please?
 
E doesn't just apply to energy in the form of photons.
 
Ratzinger said:
Thank you jackle for answering. Things getting clearer. So just for the record: the E in E=mc^2 stands for energy in form of photons. So E=mc^2 is the conversion formula of matter into photons? Could just one of you give me confirmation on that, please?
The correct equation, or should I say complete equation, is:
E^2=m^2c^4+m^2 p^2
 
E doesn't just apply to energy in the form of photons.
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Well, I need a little more information here. What else?
Come on, 211 views and no one able to explain E=mc^2?
 
If ALL the mass was converted to energy, then it would be (essentially by definition) photons. However most reactions involve some particles in and other particles out.
 
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Ratzinger said:
Have three easy questions.
1. When converting mass to energy, is this energy equivalent to the term field. To we get photons (lots of them and high energetic) for matter?

Energy is not equivalent to field, or to matter. It is its own "thing" with its own dimensional units. To get an amount of energy that corresponds to an amount of something else you have to multiply by some constant. For example to get the amount of energy corresponding to a certain mass at rest you mutiply by the speed of light squared, a constant which changes the mass units to mass times length squared over time squared units of energy.

2. Creating matter/ particles requires energy. Again, what is meant here by energy? Colliding two particles very fast yields new matter, right? Can high energy fields (gamma rays) create real matter? If so, how and where (in matter and vacuum?)?

Because of conservation of momentum constraints, a single photon, however high its energy, can't create a massive particle pair in the vacuum. However if another massive particle can be part of the interaction then all of the particle's energy, if it is high enough, can be converted into massive particles, together with their kinetic energy.

The photon's energy is proportional to its frequency and the particles' energy is partly in their mass and partly in the kinetic energy of their motion, and the total energy in has to equal the total energy out.

You are correct that colliding a particle and its antiparticle will produce a burst of high energy which will go into particles according to the various conservation laws and calcuable probabilities.

3. Virtual matter can be created in vacuum. Does vacuum mean complete nothingness devoid also of photons? Or is it that photons turn into mater for a moment depending on how much energy they carry?

In quantum field theory, the vacuum is empty of OBSERVABLE particles. However there also in QFT are unobservable particles whose product of lifetime by energy is too small to amount to a full quantum, so they can't be observed, and the so-called vacuum is alive with the births and deaths of these particles, which are called virtual.

Utterly confused I ask you clever people for help.

Hope this helps.
 
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Also, treating E = mc^2 as a conversion equation is a little bit more subtle. As dlgoff has already pointed out, it's a reduced form of the more general equation in the case when the object with mass m is at rest. What E = mc^2 says is, if we ignore potential energy, an object with no kinetic energy still posseses some energy by virtue of having a mass, and in fact there is a *lot* of it, because c^2 is a very big number.

The reason people use it as a conversion equation is that in *certain* situations the mass-energy can be converted into other forms, for example into the kinetic energy of a decay product (like an alpha particle or a gamma ray). However, in many other interactions it isn't relevant because the mass-energy is effectively locked away.

Kane
 
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mathman said:
If ALL the mass was converted to energy, then it would be (essentially by definition) photons.

What about neutrinos? Aren't they often considered energy?
 
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Neutrinos are leptons (like electrons) and are treated as particles. Whenever they are produced, as in many reactions, they carry kinetic energy.
 
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selfAdjoint said:
Energy is not equivalent to field, or to matter. It is its own "thing" with its own dimensional units. To get an amount of energy that corresponds to an amount of something else you have to multiply by some constant. For example to get the amount of energy corresponding to a certain mass at rest you mutiply by the speed of light squared, a constant which changes the mass units to mass times length squared over time squared units of energy.



Because of conservation of momentum constraints, a single photon, however high its energy, can't create a massive particle pair in the vacuum. However if another massive particle can be part of the interaction then all of the particle's energy, if it is high enough, can be converted into massive particles, together with their kinetic energy.

The photon's energy is proportional to its frequency and the particles' energy is partly in their mass and partly in the kinetic energy of their motion, and the total energy in has to equal the total energy out.

You are correct that colliding a particle and its antiparticle will produce a burst of high energy which will go into particles according to the various conservation laws and calcuable probabilities.



In quantum field theory, the vacuum is empty of OBSERVABLE particles. However there also in QFT are unobservable particles whose product of lifetime by energy is too small to amount to a full quantum, so they can't be observed, and the so-called vacuum is alive with the births and deaths of these particles, which are called virtual.



Hope this helps.


Yes, it did. Thank you
 

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