How Is Neutron Density Distributed in a Monoenergetic Beam?

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The discussion revolves around the neutron density distribution function in a monoenergetic beam of neutrons moving along the x-axis. The original poster presents a mathematical expression involving the Dirac delta function and seeks to understand its derivation and implications.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the integration of the neutron density expression over solid angles and question the appearance of the factor of 1/2 in the calculations. There is also discussion about the representation of the Dirac delta function in terms of cosine rather than angle.

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Some participants are examining the mathematical rigor of the original poster's proof and discussing the implications of using the Dirac delta function. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity involved in deriving the expression, and suggestions for further exploration have been made without reaching a consensus.

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Participants note the ambiguity in integrating delta functions and the implications of using a delta function representation for the beam, which may not provide information on angular dependence. The discussion also touches on the symmetry of delta functions and their properties in relation to the problem at hand.

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Homework Statement


Show that the neutron density distribution function at any point in a monodirectional beam of monoenergetic neutrons moving along the x-axis is given by
$$n(x, \mathbf \omega) = \frac n {\pi} \delta( \mu -1)$$
where ##n## is the neutron density, ##\delta( \mu -1)## is the Dirac delta function, and ##\mu## is the cosine of the angle between ##\mathbf \omega## and the x-axis.

Homework Equations


##\int_{\Omega} n(x, \mathbf \omega) d \Omega = n##

The Attempt at a Solution


I simply checked that integrating over the solid angle gives the total neutron density:
$$\int_{\Omega} \frac n {\pi} \delta( cos \theta -1) sin \theta d \theta d \phi $$
## \mu = cos \theta \rightarrow d \mu = -sin\theta d \theta## and by the properties of Dirac's delta function the above integral reduces to
$$\frac n {\pi} \frac 1 2 2 \pi = n$$

I think this is a valid proof, but I'm not very sure how to "derive" the expression in the first place. For example: why the Dirac's delta function is expressed in terms of ##cos \theta## instead of just ## \theta## ?

Thanks
Ric
 
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Where did the ## \frac{1}{2} ## come from? Otherwise what you did looks correct. I would have though the original expression needs an extra factor of ## \frac{1}{2} ##. Perhaps I'm mistaken. ## \\ ## Evaluating=i.e. integrating a delta function to the endpoint of integration (where the argument goes to zero) as opposed to integrating through it looks to be somewhat problematic.## \\ ## Edit: Perhaps that is where the 1/2 comes from=I don't know how "sound" that is mathematically. I generally try to avoid that type of ambiguity. If it can be agreed upon that ## \int\limits_{0}^{+\infty} \delta(x) \, dx=\frac{1}{2} ##, then I guess you can say it works.
 
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Charles Link said:
Edit: Perhaps that is where the 1/2 comes from=I don't know how "sound" that is mathematically. I generally try to avoid that type of ambiguity. If it can be agreed upon that +∞∫0δ(x)dx=12∫0+∞δ(x)dx=12 \int\limits_{0}^{+\infty} \delta(x) \, dx=\frac{1}{2} , then I guess you can say it works.

Yes, sorry for not specifying. I'm still not very familiar with Dirac's delta function so I do not know how to state it with the proper mathematical rigor.

BTW I do not like my "proof" because it doesn't really tell you where that expression comes from, do you have any suggestions about it ?
 
This one reminds me of the scattering that occurs from a cone that scatters the incident beam into a ring at angle ## \theta= \theta_o ##. ## \\ ## By inspection ## \frac{d \sigma}{d \Omega}= \frac{A_{base}}{2 \pi \sin{\theta}} \delta(\theta-\theta_o) ## in spherical coordinates, because integrating it over ## d \Omega ## must give ## \sigma_{total}= A_{base} ##. ## \\ ## The ## \frac{\delta(\theta-\theta_o)}{\sin{\theta}} ## can also be written as ## \delta(\cos{\theta}-\cos{\theta_o}) ##. ## \\ ## See this post where this delta function with an angle in its argument just came up the other day=(see post 2): https://www.physicsforums.com/threa...a-rutherfords-experiment.965947/#post-6131309 ## \\ ## Basically ## \delta(f(x)-f(a))=\frac{\delta(x-a)}{|f'(x)| } =\frac{\delta(x-a)}{|f'(a)|} ## if I'm not mistaken. (Calling it ## f'(a) ## in the very last step might be incorrect. If ## f'(a)=0 ##, it might need to remain as ## f'(x) ##).
 
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Sorry for the late replay. You gave me an excellent idea, but I still can't get the whole thing together. I have to think this through very carefully
 
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Perhaps it is worth mentioning that with a delta function representation of the beam, you do not get any information on the ## \theta ## dependence other than that it is located at one angle ## \theta_o ##. The delta function can be represented by very narrow Gaussians or other shapes, but these shapes essentially have zero width. ## \\ ## Once again, there is no information on the ## \theta ## dependence other than that it all the power appears at one specific direction. ## \\ ## In this case, all the power is where ## cos{\theta_o}=1 ##. The form that the delta function takes on for ## n ##, (or intensity ## I ##), is such that ## P_{total}=\int I \, d \Omega ##. The form of the delta function for the intensity ## I=I(\theta, \phi) ## can normally be written down by simply looking at this integral ## P_{total}=\int I \, d \Omega=\iint I(\theta, \phi) \, \sin{\theta} \, d \theta \, d \phi ## result. ## \\ ## The case you have is complicated by the fact that the intensity is at angle ## \theta_o=0 ## so that the integration could not take place on both sides of the delta function peak. Delta functions are normally considered to be symmetric about ## x=0 ## and thereby this one could be considered to have a 1/2 factor, i.e. ## \frac{1}{2}=\int\limits_{0}^{+\infty} \delta(x) \, dx ##, where ## 1=\int\limits_{-\infty}^{+\infty} \delta(x) \, dx ##.
 
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Sorry if I'm not replying but I have been busy with exams in these days. I have to figure out by my self so I do not know what to add to your post. Thanks a lot. (Sorry for the errors but I'm with my phone setted to an other language and it is correcting everything)
 
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