How much of solution to reach the endpoint of titration?

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The discussion revolves around a titration problem involving the standardization of a solution using ascorbic acid and triiodide. Participants explore the calculations necessary to determine the volume of triiodide solution required to reach the endpoint of the titration, focusing on stoichiometry and molarity concepts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a titration problem involving 0.0750 grams of ascorbic acid dissolved in 50.00 mL of water and seeks to find the volume of 0.015M triiodide solution needed to reach the endpoint.
  • Another participant critiques the initial application of the M1V1=M2V2 equation, suggesting it is not necessary for this problem.
  • A participant provides the reaction formula and calculates the moles of ascorbic acid based on its mass, expressing uncertainty about the next steps.
  • Another participant advises that calculating the moles of triiodide required based on the moles of ascorbic acid is the next step, emphasizing the use of stoichiometry.
  • A later reply confirms that the stoichiometry is one-to-one, leading to a calculated volume of 28.3 mL of triiodide solution needed, while another participant reports a slightly different volume of 28.4 mL, indicating a minor discrepancy.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the stoichiometric relationship between ascorbic acid and triiodide, but there is a slight disagreement regarding the exact volume of triiodide solution required, with two different calculations presented.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the application of the M1V1=M2V2 equation and the necessity of calculating the concentration of ascorbic acid, indicating potential limitations in their understanding of the problem.

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Homework Statement



You prepare your standardization solution by weighing out 0.0750 grams of standard ascorbic acid (176.12 g/mol) and dissolving it in 50.00 mL of water. You then add ten drops of starch indicator. How many milliliters of 0.015M triiodide solution will you need to reach the endpoint of the titration?

Homework Equations



M1V1=M2V2

The Attempt at a Solution



[(0.0750 g X 176.12 g/mol) / (50 mL water) V1]= [(0.015 M) (V2)]

How do I solve this, seeing as I have 2 unknowns (V1 and V2)? Am I doing it wrong?
 
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Your problem is in applying blindly M1V1=M2V2 equation. It is not needed here, have you read the page on the titration calculation I linked to in another thread?
 
The formula for the reaction that takes place is:
C6H8O6 + I3- +H2O \leftrightarrow C6H6O6 +3I- +2H3O+

So relevant equations are C=n/V or n=CV

0.0750 g x 1mol/176.12 g/mol = 4.25846x10-4 mol ascorbic acid

4.25846x10-4 mol ascorbic acid/ 0.050 L water = 8.51692x10-3 M abscorbic acid.

I'm not sure where to go from here.
 
You don't need concentration of the ascorbic acid. You have to calculate how many moles of triiodide will react with the ascorbic acid. Usually you will use n=CV to calculate number of moles of ascorbic acid, but you are given mass, so it is enough to convert it to number of moles (which you already did).

Next step is a simple stoichiometry - how many moles of triiodide will react with the 4.258x10-4 moles of ascorbic acid?

After that - what volume of triiodide solution contain this amount of triiodide?
 
Ok I figured it out, thanks for being patient with me.
So since the stoichiometry is one to one, it takes 4.258 x 10-4 mol of triiodide to react with the same number of moles of ascorbic acid. then using v=n/c, it takes 28.3 mL of triiodide.
:approve:
 
I got 28.4 mL, but it is close enough to show you are on the right track.
 

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