How physicists were writting papers in the old times?

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The discussion explores the methods and technologies used by physicists in the past, particularly during the time of notable figures like Einstein and Schrödinger, for writing and publishing papers that included mathematical symbols. It touches on historical practices, tools, and the evolution of typesetting in scientific writing.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that drafts were initially created using typewriters with spaces left for equations, which were later added by hand.
  • Others mention that earlier manuscripts were entirely handwritten, and that typewriters with special paper were used until the late 1980s.
  • A participant recalls that professors often wrote drafts by hand and relied on secretaries to type them using IBM Selectric typewriters, which could accommodate Greek letters and math symbols.
  • There is a mention of hand engraving as a method for printing more complex mathematical symbols and illustrations in earlier publications.
  • Some participants reflect on the ease of modern technology compared to past methods, with humorous anecdotes about the challenges faced by earlier generations.

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Participants generally agree that earlier methods involved a combination of typewriting and handwritten elements, but there are varying accounts of the specifics and timelines of these practices. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the exact technologies and methods used across different periods.

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Some statements rely on personal recollections and may not capture the full historical context or variations in practices across different institutions and time periods.

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Now it's very easy to write mathematical symbols and print them but how the physicists like Einstein, Schrödinger, Dirac, Haisenberg, Bohr and others at that time were writting papers. How people were writting any books that include mathematical symbols at all?
What kind of technology did they use?
 
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It is just as easy to print math symbols as it is to print letter symbols. You can do just fine with movable type, or other technologies.

My guess is that drafts were done on typewriter, with space left for equations and math symbols, which were then written in by hand. In even earlier days, drafts would be handwritten entirely. But the final print would be done professionally with printed text and symbols.

Math fonts have certainly changed throughout the years. Dig up some old papers to see what used to be en vogue.
 
Note that this is not THAT long ago, it was before my time but not by much (ten years).

People were submitting manuscripts written using typewriter on special paper (with hand-written math symbols) until the late 80s (and in some cases even later).
I have collegues who are now in their mid-40s who remember doing this when they were PhD students.
 
f95toli said:
Note that this is not THAT long ago, it was before my time but not by much (ten years).

People were submitting manuscripts written using typewriter on special paper (with hand-written math symbols) until the late 80s (and in some cases even later).
I have collegues who are now in their mid-40s who remember doing this when they were PhD students.

They also had to walk to the lab every day and it was uphill both ways and always snowing...

We have it too easy. These days there is a latex plugin for walking uphill in the snow: \snow{\uphill\bothways}
 
G01 said:
They also had to walk to the lab every day and it was uphill both ways and always snowing...

We have it too easy. These days there is a latex plugin for walking uphill in the snow: \snow{\uphill\bothways}

And 30 years from now, I'll be telling younger engineers "you don't know how lucky you have it... back in my day MatLab was just text files... and SolidWorks models were shown on a two-dimensional screen!"

"Okay, grandpa, go play with your touchscreen phone..."
 
Ben Niehoff said:
My guess is that drafts were done on typewriter, with space left for equations and math symbols, which were then written in by hand. In even earlier days, drafts would be handwritten entirely.

When I was a grad student c. 1980, most professors wrote their drafts by hand on yellow pads or whatever, and gave them to a departmental secretary to type up. The secretaries used IBM Selectric typewriters with interchangeable typeballs that included Greek letters and many common math symbols. They could do subscripts and superscripts by using half-height line spacing. For very complex equations, they left blank spaces, and the professors wrote them in by hand.
 
FlexGunship said:
"Okay, grandpa, go play with your touchscreen phone..."

You mean you actually had to touch the screen back then?!
 
Sayajin said:
Now it's very easy to write mathematical symbols and print them but how the physicists like Einstein, Schrödinger, Dirac, Haisenberg, Bohr and others at that time were writting papers. How people were writting any books that include mathematical symbols at all?
What kind of technology did they use?


The fancy stuff was printed via hand engraving of metal, I believe.

Many portraits and so forth were also produced this way.
 

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