How to solve f'(t) = -t + t^3.f(t)

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The discussion revolves around the differential equation f'(t) = -t + t^3f(t). Participants explore potential methods for solving this equation, including the use of integrating factors and substitutions, while also referencing related concepts such as the Gaussian integral.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about how to solve the differential equation, noting a lack of recent experience with differential equations.
  • Another participant suggests using an integrating factor, specifically μ = exp(-1/4 t^4), and provides a form for the solution involving an integral that needs to be computed.
  • A later reply reiterates the integrating factor approach but questions the feasibility of solving the resulting integral analytically, suggesting it may require special functions.
  • Some participants discuss the integral's relation to the Gaussian integral, indicating that the substitution u = t^2/2 leads back to the Gaussian integral, which they were initially trying to compute.
  • One participant states that the integral is non-elementary and cannot be computed in terms of elementary functions.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on a definitive method for solving the differential equation, and multiple approaches and viewpoints are presented without resolution.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the solvability of the integral involved and its dependence on special functions, highlighting limitations in their approaches.

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How to solve ##f'(t) = -t + t^3f(t)##
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I guess you could try an integrating factor ##\mu = \text{exp} \left(- \frac{1}{4} t^4 \right)##, in which case the solution is$$f(t) = \frac{\int -t \, \text{exp} \left(- \frac{1}{4} t^4 \right)}{ \text{exp} \left(- \frac{1}{4} t^4 \right)}$$but now you need to do that integral
 
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etotheipi said:
I guess you could try an integrating factor ##\mu = \text{exp} \left(- \frac{1}{4} t^4 \right)##, in which case the solution is$$f(t) = \frac{\int -t \, \text{exp} \left(- \frac{1}{4} t^4 \right)}{ \text{exp} \left(- \frac{1}{4} t^4 \right)}$$but now you need to do that integral and I don't think it's one you can do analytically without special functions. So, maybe there is a better approach
After the substitution ##u = \frac{t^2}{2}##, the integral becomes ##\int e^{-u^2}du##, which brings me back to square one because that's the integral I was trying to compute here: Gaussian integral by differentiating under the integral sign, which led to that differential equation in the first place.
 
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fresh_42 said:
Here is how the Gaussian integral is done:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaussian_integral
Compute ##[\int \exp(ax^2)dx]^2##, switch to polar coordinates and calculate the result.
Yeah, I do know the standard method of computing it by squaring it and changing to polar coordinates, but I wanted to do it with this method of differentiating under the integral sign that I recently learned.
 
The integral is non-elementary, there is no way to compute the indefinite integral in terms of elementary functions.
 

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