How was the KSN 2011d Supernova Detected?

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The discussion centers on the detection of the KSN 2011d supernova, specifically focusing on the methods and criteria used by the Kepler telescope in identifying stars that may be on the verge of exploding. The scope includes technical explanations of observational techniques and the unexpected nature of the discovery.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that the Kepler telescope measures the brightness of numerous stars every 30 minutes, primarily searching for exoplanet transits, and that the detection of the supernova was an unexpected finding.
  • There is uncertainty regarding the specific signs that indicate a star is about to go supernova, with one participant suggesting that rapid increases in brightness were analyzed post-event rather than predicted.
  • Another participant shares insights from a personal experience with the Kepler program, explaining that the detection of a supernova would be noticeable due to its sudden brightness compared to the subtle dimming observed during exoplanet transits.
  • Some participants express doubt about the predictive capabilities of the Kepler telescope regarding supernova events, emphasizing that the detection was retrospective.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the role of the Kepler telescope in detecting the supernova but express differing views on the predictive methods and signs associated with impending supernova events. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific criteria used to identify stars likely to explode.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions made about the observational data and the definitions of the signs of a supernova. The retrospective nature of the detection is emphasized, but the exact methodology remains unclear.

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It was caught by the Kepler telescope. Kepler measures the brightnesses of hundreds of thousands of stars simultaneously every 30 minutes in the search for exoplanet transits. This finding was an unexpected bonus.
 
phyzguy said:
It was caught by the Kepler telescope. Kepler measures the brightnesses of hundreds of thousands of stars simultaneously every 30 minutes in the search for exoplanet transits. This finding was an unexpected bonus.
According to Kepler what are the signs that a star is about to go supernova?
 
Greg Bernhardt said:
According to Kepler what are the signs that a star is about to go supernova?

I'm not sure. I think they just combed through the Kepler database looking for very rapid increases in brightness. I don't think they predicted this star would go supernova - they witnessed it after the fact.
 
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phyzguy said:
I'm not sure. I think they just combed through the Kepler database looking for very rapid increases in brightness. I don't think they predicted this star would go supernova - they witnessed it after the fact.
During the last summer I got my granddaughter involved with NASA's stem program for Middle through High school. She was fortunate enough to get assigned the senior lead programmer for Kepler at Ames research as her mentor, I in turn was fortunate enough to get a chance to ask questions about Kepler and learned that the way they search for exoplanets is to watch for very subtle dimming of star light that occurs during transits by planets. The sudden flash of a supernova would be impossible for them to miss. Considering the relatively narrow field that they scan at a time catching the supernova was very lucky but once it occurred in the data it would have shown up like a flashbulb.
another upside to the NASA STEM program is that now my granddaughter is "mentoring" classmates in her schools own STEM program.
 

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