Humans were using stone spear points over 1/2M years ago

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The discussion centers around the historical use of stone spear points by humans, with a focus on archaeological findings that suggest these tools were utilized over 500,000 years ago. Participants explore the implications of these findings on our understanding of early human skills and technology, as well as the challenges in reconstructing the history of these ancient peoples.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that recent archaeological discoveries challenge previously held beliefs about the timeline of human tool use, suggesting that skills thought to be recent may actually be very ancient.
  • One participant highlights the case of Ötzi the Iceman, arguing that his findings have significantly altered perceptions of the capabilities of early humans.
  • Another participant proposes that the techniques for hafting stone points could have developed much earlier than currently believed, raising questions about the accuracy of extrapolating from limited archaeological samples.
  • Evidence of meticulously crafted stone tools, including spears and axes, has been found in England, dating back as far as 980,000 years, according to a referenced publication.
  • One participant speculates that early hunting tools may have included horns and antlers from prey, suggesting that such materials would be difficult to identify archaeologically unless associated with other tools.

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Participants express a range of views on the implications of archaeological findings, with no consensus on the timeline or the nature of early human tool use. The discussion remains open-ended, with multiple competing perspectives on the evolution of these technologies.

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Participants acknowledge limitations in the current understanding of early human history, including the challenges of interpreting archaeological evidence and the potential for significant gaps in knowledge.

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Probably can't teach about this in the Bible belt...

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hISS_RrQOpDbJ9sk84ActLvv-6ZA?docId=CNG.9484301c0f281a31e8383bf96341f10b.471
 
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Interesting. Thanks for the link!
 
It seems we are finding more and more proof that skills we considered rather recent are instead very old. Too bad that we don't have a history of these people. What a loss.

The iceman Otzy turned what we thought we knew of his age upside down. Much more advanced than we had believed.
 
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It seems we are finding more and more proof that skills we considered rather recent are instead very old. Too bad that we don't have a history of these people. What a loss.

The iceman Otzy turned what we thought we knew of his age upside down. Much more advanced than we had believed.
Yep, Take the commonly-held belief that hafting spears with stone points began 300K years ago, and then push that back another 200 (+?) years, and we have an idea how thin our knowledge can be for the early history of humans. The kicker is (IMO) that the techniques could have evolved much, much earlier and been spread to other areas... Can we possibly take samples from one or two archaeological sites and extrapolate with any accuracy? BTW, flint from the Moosehead Lake region of Maine has been found all across the St. Lawrence waters and down through the center of the US, concentrated along the Mississippi valley and tributaries.

I would love to have concentrated on archaeology, except it would have necessitated "portability" when I had older friends and family members who were not in the best health. I know a doctor of archaeology in west-central Maine, and he is living a pretty spartan existence with no electricity or running water, just so he can follow the digs. He is well-known in the field, but he's spending most of his income just chasing digs.
 
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Meticulously crafted sharp stone tools, flint I believe, along with spears and axes are found at a good number of sites in England dating from 400,000 years all the way to 980,000 years.

See the recently published "The British Paleaolithic" by Pettitt and White.

Back that far in time (in between and before the various ice advances) the climate was much warmer and species of horse, giant deer and rhinoceros were hunted by those early people. The authors above do a nice job of presenting the fauna and flora at each age based on the archaeological evidence.
 
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I've long thought the earliest hunting "tools" might have been horns and antlers of fallen prey. These would be difficult to discover as such unless tied to a stick - but would make sense if early humans observed various animals engaged in fights and the damage done by the horns or antlers.
 

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