im trying now to try to explain in regular language, this is just a thought, an epiphony really, it is truly very simple in my head, but, there inlies the problem, but fear not, i will solve this dilemma, i will return this time tomorrow and elaborate as well as i can. sorry for jumping the gun, i mean coming to this forum with a shell like that without first at least articulating my thought. i am only a carpenter, unemployed one at that.