I would like to know for example how I prove or disprove this sentence ?

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The discussion revolves around proving or disproving a mathematical statement regarding set theory. Specifically, participants are examining the conditions under which the statement "If for any sets A, B, C, it holds that A\C = B\C and A ∩ C = B ∩ C, then A ⊆ B" is valid. Additionally, there is a request for assistance in proving the equality of powersets, P(A∩B) = P(A)∩P(B).

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  • One participant seeks clarification on the phrasing of the original statement, suggesting it should use "it is the case" instead of "exists."
  • Another participant provides a proof attempt using set operations and definitions, asserting that the assumptions lead to A = B.
  • There is a request for help in proving the equality of powersets, specifically asking for a proof involving an arbitrary element X.
  • Several participants encourage others to continue the proof process themselves, emphasizing the need to show the equivalence of membership in the powerset.

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Participants generally engage in clarifying the original statement and exploring proofs, but there is no consensus on the validity of the initial claim or the proofs presented. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the correctness of the statements and proofs.

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Participants express uncertainty about the phrasing of the original statement and the implications of the assumptions made. There are also unresolved steps in the proofs proposed, particularly regarding the powerset equality.

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Hi,
I am new here ,
I have stuck to Proved or disproved This sentence :
If for any A,B,C sets exist A\C=B\C And A ∩ C =B ∩ C , then A⊆ B.

Thanks very much for help.
 
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MathPro17 said:
If for any A,B,C sets exist A\C=B\C And A ∩ C =B ∩ C , then A⊆ B.
Do you mean "it is the case" instead of "exists"? That is, is the claim as follows: If $A\setminus C=B\setminus C$ and $A\cap C=B\cap C$ for some sets $A$, $B$ and $C$, then $A\subseteq B$?

Note that $X\setminus Y=X\cap\overline{Y}$, so $X=X\cap(Y\cup\overline{Y})=(X\cap Y)\cup (X\setminus Y)$. Therefore,
\[
A=(A\cap C)\cup (A\setminus C)=\text{ (by assumption) }(B\cap C)\cup (B\setminus C)=B.
\]
 
Evgeny.Makarov said:
Do you mean "it is the case" instead of "exists"? That is, is the claim as follows: If $A\setminus C=B\setminus C$ and $A\cap C=B\cap C$ for some sets $A$, $B$ and $C$, then $A\subseteq B$?

Note that $X\setminus Y=X\cap\overline{Y}$, so $X=X\cap(Y\cup\overline{Y})=(X\cap Y)\cup (X\setminus Y)$. Therefore,
\[
A=(A\cap C)\cup (A\setminus C)=\text{ (by assumption) }(B\cap C)\cup (B\setminus C)=B.
\]

Yes I mean for that .
I would like to your help with another thing - to prove this :
P(A∩B)=P(A)∩P(B)
if you could prove it with:"x ∈ to P()..." ?

Thanks.
 
MathPro17 said:
I would like to your help with another thing - to prove this :
P(A∩B)=P(A)∩P(B)
if you could prove it with:"x ∈ to P()..." ?
Why don't you continue $X\in P(A\cap B)\iff\dots$ yourself? You'll need $X\subseteq A\cap B\iff X\subseteq A\land X\subseteq B$ where $\land$ means "and".
 
Evgeny.Makarov said:
Why don't you continue $X\in P(A\cap B)\iff\dots$ yourself? You'll need $X\subseteq A\cap B\iff X\subseteq A\land X\subseteq B$ where $\land$ means "and".

I Mean How could I prove this : "P(A∩B)=P(A)∩P(B)" with Some X that I take ?
Thanks.
 
MathPro17 said:
I Mean How could I prove this : "P(A∩B)=P(A)∩P(B)" with Some X that I take ?
You need to show $X\in P(A\cap B)\iff X\in P(A)\cap P(B)$ for all sets $X$. Why don't you continue the series of equivalences $X\in P(A\cap B)\iff\dots$ using the definition of powerset?
 

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