Identifying the Reducing Agent in a Spontaneous Reaction

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around identifying the reducing agent in a specific spontaneous redox reaction involving hypochlorite, iodine, and hydroxide ions. Participants explore the roles of different species in the reaction and the implications of their oxidation states.

Discussion Character

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  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that both I2 and OH- lose electrons, leading to uncertainty about which is the reducing agent.
  • Another participant clarifies that hydroxide does not change its reduction status and emphasizes the roles of reducing and oxidizing agents in redox reactions.
  • A participant proposes that I2 is the reducing agent.
  • Another participant agrees with the assertion that I2 is the reducing agent and explains that it reduces another atom while being oxidized itself.
  • One participant seeks clarification on the role of OH- and suggests that it does not cause another atom to be reduced.
  • A later reply asserts that hydroxide is neither reduced nor oxidized in the reaction, serving instead to stabilize hypochlorite for the redox process.
  • Participants discuss the implications of balancing charges in acidic solutions, with one expressing uncertainty about how to approach this scenario.
  • Another participant offers a tentative guess regarding balancing in acidic conditions, indicating a lack of confidence and inviting further input from others.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is some agreement that I2 is the reducing agent, but there is disagreement regarding the role of hydroxide, with conflicting views on whether it undergoes oxidation or reduction. The discussion about balancing in acidic solutions remains unresolved, with participants expressing uncertainty.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that hydroxide's role in the reaction is primarily for stability and balancing, but its exact involvement in oxidation or reduction is contested. The discussion about balancing charges in acidic conditions is also marked by uncertainty and lacks a definitive approach.

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Homework Statement



What is the reducing agent in the following spontaneous reaction?

OCl-(aq) + I2(s) + 2 OH-(aq) --->
Cl-(aq) + 2 OI-(aq) + H2O(l)



Homework Equations



The reducing agent is oxidized in the process so it loses electrons.

The Attempt at a Solution



Both I2 and OH- lose electrons so I am not sure which one it is, any help?
 
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Not as much as that. The hydroxide does not change any of its reduction status.

The reducing agent reduces some part of another item; the oxidizing agent oxidizes some part of an item. Essentially, the reducing agent becomes oxidized, and the oxidizing agent becomes reduced. Most of the time, you want to check reduction status of some atom other than oxygens.
 
so the I2 is the reducing agent?
 
Yes.
 
Thanks..so just so i get why:
the I2 is the reduceing agent because it reduces another atom and at the same time is oxidized, but the OH- is only oxidized but didnt cause another atom to be reduced?
 
You made an interesting interpretation, but the hydroxide is not reduced and is not oxidized in the reaction. The hydroxide is used in the balancing of the equation but does not go through oxidation or reduction. One reason why the hydroxide is needed is that it makes the hypochlorite more stable and available for the redox reaction. The acid form, hypochlorous acid, HOCl, is not very stable and can decompose. The neutralized anion, OCl-, is more stable but needs to be the salt form for stability.

When you pump chlorine gas into alkaline solution (hydroxide present), you get hypochlorite salt. This is why your question in post #1 starts with hypochlorite in alkaline solution.
 
what would we do in an acidic solution when we need to blance charges?
 
My best guess for that reaction in acidic solution is that the hydronium would not be part of any mass or charge balancing; I'm really not so certain in these conditions. Maybe someone else can give better understanding. I could only best imagine showing two hydrogen ions on the left and maybe just two HIO on the right, or just two hydrogen ions (therefore redundant) on the rightside. Like I say, my guess for this condition is not secure and someone else should help respond. It's been a long time.
 

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