Identifying Vectors: Examples and Explanation for Basic Vector Questions

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The discussion revolves around identifying which given mathematical expressions qualify as vectors. Participants are examining various forms of notation and the definitions of vectors in the context of a homework assignment.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the definitions of vectors, questioning whether certain expressions, particularly those involving scalars and negative values, can be classified as vectors. There is discussion about the necessity of multiple components for an expression to be considered a vector.

Discussion Status

Some participants have confirmed certain choices as vectors based on their understanding, while others express confusion about the classification of negative scalars and single-component expressions. There is an ongoing exploration of notation and its implications for identifying vectors.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the importance of notation in understanding vectors and express concerns about their familiarity with the concepts, particularly given the context of a homework assignment. There are references to technical errors affecting initial responses.

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Homework Statement



Which of the following are vectors? (Select all that apply.)
a] ‹ 0.7, 0.7, -0.7 ›
b] ‹ 0, 2.3, -1 ›
c] 0
d] 5׋ 33, 1.04, -9.5 ›
e] −3×10−6
f] 3.5Which of the following are vectors? (Select all that apply.)
a] a-> (the arrow is above the a)
b] r->/2
c] |r->|
d] 10r->
e] ‹ rx, ry, rz ›
f] r

Homework Equations


A vector has a magnitude and direction.

The Attempt at a Solution


I originally choose a and b because those are in the form that I'm familiar with...that of a position vector. However, this homework assignment is online and apparently those two are not correct. I then tried a,b, and d, since d (from what I can tell) is just a scalar multiplied by a vector...the answer of which is indeed a vector as well, but that wasn't right either. I think that c, e, and f are scalars. I really have no idea why the answers I gave are not correct, and would appreciate it if someone could shed some light on my errors.For the second problem, I thought that the answer would have been a and e. C is obviously the magnitude, and b & d are multiplied by a scalar. F is just a scalar, too. But as I decided in the first problem, multiplying a scalar by a vector just makes a vector. So I suppose I need to try a,b,d,and e? I'm feeling PRETTY dumb right now, since this is the homework after the first night. Encouragement as well as help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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First off, I will confirm that a b and d are vectors, as you've determined.

I think e is also a vector, because it is negative. It has a magnitude of 3x10-6 and an angle of 180 degrees. However, I'm pretty sure scalars can be negative technically. It'd be kind of silly if that is what this question hinged on.

for the second one, from what you're describing, I'd choose abde too. Is the r in the last one in bold? That is another notation for a vector, meaning it could be one if you didn't present it correctly.
 
I don't see how e being negative makes it a vector..it still only has one component. I was under the impression that you at least need to know what it represents, i.e. it could be <−3×10−6 ,0> and that'd be a vector, but since it doesn't have the second place holder (y) in my example, it's just a scalar.
 
I wouldn't worry about it too much. Those questions are over notation. If I told you {A|} is a "meh", you would know that {A|} stands for "meh", but what is "meh"? In the same sense if you didn't know what a vector was before the notation was introduced, then telling you the notation would have been pointless. My point is is that notation is somewhat important but it is not the main focus, the main focus is on the concepts.

That being said are any of the choices bolded or have a line (as opposed to an arrow) over the top of them? Both of these also tend to represent vectors. Also some people will just write 0 and call it a vector as a shorthand way of writing (0, 0, 0, ...)
 
Sorry guys. It was a technical error. I got the questions right with my original reasoning. I now feel better about beginning my college physics career. :)

Edit-Feldoh, that's what I was thinking too, but since I never took physics in high school, I've got to learn everything from the bottom to the top. It's really helped me to read two different accounts, rather than just the textbook.
 
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I don't see how e being negative makes it a vector..it still only has one component. I was under the impression that you at least need to know what it represents, i.e. it could be <−3×10−6 ,0> and that'd be a vector, but since it doesn't have the second place holder (y) in my example, it's just a scalar.

Actually that could be a vector, maybe.

-3 x 10^-6 has a magnitude of 3 x 10^-6 at an angle of 180 (direction)
 

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