In that Twilight Zone episode with the bookworm bank teller, why is--

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The discussion revolves around the portrayal of nuclear fallout in the Twilight Zone episode "Time Enough at Last," questioning the scientific accuracy of the narrative and its implications on the story's plausibility. Participants explore themes of nuclear physics, storytelling liberties, and the impact of radiation on human health.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that fallout is variable and influenced by environmental factors like wind.
  • Others argue that the absence of visible sickness in the character does not imply the absence of fallout, as the story concludes without detailing the aftermath.
  • It is suggested by some that the episode takes significant creative liberties regarding scientific plausibility.
  • One participant mentions that the timeline of the episode may suggest the events occur shortly after a nuclear war, implying that immediate effects would be more pronounced than long-term radiation effects.
  • Another point raised is that second-generation thermonuclear weapons, which were more common at the time, might produce less fallout compared to first-generation fission bombs.
  • Some participants express a nostalgic appreciation for the episode while discussing its themes and connections to other Twilight Zone stories.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally do not reach a consensus on the scientific accuracy of the episode's depiction of nuclear fallout, with multiple competing views and interpretations present throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the limitations of the episode's narrative in terms of scientific realism and the potential for misinterpretation of radiation effects over time.

Who May Find This Useful

Fans of the Twilight Zone, those interested in the intersection of science and storytelling, and individuals curious about the portrayal of nuclear physics in media may find this discussion relevant.

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--there no nuclear fallout after a bunch of nuclear detonations supposedly destroy the world? The man seemingly just walks out of the vault after having retreated to it to read a book on his lunch break, without being affected by any residual radiation. Was nuclear physics not well-developed enough in the late 1950s for the writers of this episode to know that it exists, or is my woefully scant knowledge of physics betraying me once more?
 
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Oh that was a great episode, when he had all the time in the world now to read without being bothered, then he lost his (_______)! It's just a story, that can happen only in the Twilight Zone...….
 
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1. Fallout is fickle, dependent in winds and other factors.
2. Just because he didn't get sick in the story doesn't mean there wasn't fallout. The story ended.
3. It's fantasy.
 
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Like most if not all Twilight Zone stories, Time enough at Last took rather extensive license regarding plausibility.
 
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Last night I happened to see one of my favorite episodes, "Twenty Two." That one scared the bejeepers out of me as a kid. I looked on IMDB and was surprised to learn the creepy nurse was played by Arline Sax [Martel], later to play T'Pring on Star Trek.
 
There's an episode of the Twilight Zone where Bill Shatner (and no-one else) can see a gremlin on the wing of the plane he's on. The episode later got remade with John Lithgow. So in the episode of 3rd Rock From the Sun when Dick Solomon (Lithgow) meets the Big Giant Head (Shatner) at the airport there's a brief conversation about seeing something on the wing - "that happened to me, too!"
 
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Ibix said:
So in the episode of 3rd Rock From the Sun when Dick Solomon (Lithgow) meets the Big Giant Head (Shatner) at the airport there's a brief conversation about seeing something on the wing - "that happened to me, too!"
Did not know that!
 
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Hey you Twilight Zone and PhysicsForums enthusiasts! Try a search on YouTube for "Twilight Zone Burgess Meredith" and see what interesting videos you might find listed.
 
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Pretty sure that the end of the episode happened a mere days after the nuclear war. All he seemed to have time to do was to organize the books he wanted to read. With the exception of acute radiation poisoning from huge doses at once, any negative effects would take a long time to develop, possibly even years.

Also, I think at the time, second generation thermonuclear weapons were much more common than the first gen fission bombs. Fallout only comes from fission, which in these new bombs were only used as a trigger mechanism for the much more powerful fusion stage. A powerful hydrogen bomb probably produces much less fallout than even the Hiroshima bomb.
 
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Here's a link to the original story at the Gutenberg Project: Time Enough at Last, by Lyn Venable

[Notice: original 28-year copyright was expired in 1982; if renewed, 28-year renewal was expired in 2010.]
 
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Henry Bemis said:
That's not fair. That's not fair at all. There was time now. There was—was all
the time I needed…! It's not fair! It's not fair!
Time Enough at Last - Wikipedia
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It could've been much worse...

 
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PhanthomJay said:
Oh that was a great episode, when he had all the time in the world now to read without being bothered, then he lost his (_______)! It's just a story, that can happen only in the Twilight Zone...….

I would have LOVED to hear Rod Serling deliver your last sentence. Nice post.
 
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I don’t recall that episode being specific as to how wherever he was was destroyed but I could be wrong