In your experience, is E+M harder than dynamics?

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The discussion revolves around the comparative difficulty of calculus-based courses in Electricity and Magnetism (E&M) versus Dynamics, as experienced by college students. Participants share personal experiences and opinions regarding the challenges posed by each subject, touching on both conceptual and mathematical aspects.

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  • Some participants suggest that E&M may have specialized topics that are conceptually more difficult than those in Dynamics, while others argue that the opposite can also be true.
  • One participant found junior/senior level E&M and graduate E&M significantly harder than classical dynamics courses.
  • Another participant agrees that Dynamics is easier than 300 level E&M, noting that a strong understanding of multivariable vector calculus can help mitigate difficulty in both subjects.
  • One participant states that in their experience, the fundamental E&M course was far more difficult and confusing compared to the fundamental mechanics course.
  • Another participant had an easier time with E&M than with Mechanics, attributing this to their mathematical background at the time of taking the courses.
  • One participant expressed that classical mechanics was much easier in both freshman and upper-division classes, highlighting that E&M was the only physics course they did not achieve an A in.

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Participants express a range of opinions regarding the difficulty of E&M compared to Dynamics, with no clear consensus reached. Some find E&M more challenging, while others feel Dynamics is easier, indicating multiple competing views remain.

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Participants' experiences are influenced by their mathematical backgrounds and the specific courses they took, which may affect their perceptions of difficulty. There is also mention of varying levels of difficulty based on course level (e.g., freshman vs. junior/senior). Unresolved assumptions about individual preparedness and course content may impact the discussion.

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Just curious on what everyone considers to be the harder calculus-based class in college.
 
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Eclair_de_XII said:
Just curious on what everyone considers to be the harder calculus-based class in college.

They're about the same in terms of mathematical difficulty; E&M might have some specialized topics that are more conceptually difficult than those in Dynamics but the opposite can also be true.
 
I found junior / senior level EM and graduate EM much harder than respective courses in classical dynamics. I found Freshman Sophomore EM only slightly more difficult than mechanics.
 
I agree with mpresic. I found dynamics to be far easier than 300 level E+M. Of course, having a strong understanding of multivariable vector calculus before heading into either class can mitigate the difficulty.
 
In the less advanced two courses or the Fundamental courses of Mechanics and of Electricity & Magnetism for the science and engineering students, the calc based ones, ...
Absolutely without any doubt, the E & M course was far more difficult and confusing compared to the fundamental mechanics course.
 
I had an easier time with E&M (Griffiths) than with Mechanics (Taylor)...

...I had not even begun a differential equations course during my Mechanics semester, and was taking multivariable calculus with it, whereas both maths were in my repertoire for E&M. All things being equal? E&M would have probably been a hair more difficult, but based on my circumstance it wasn't close, in the other direction.
 
In my experience classical mechanics were way easier both in freshman and upper-division classes. Upperdivision E&M I was the only course in physics I didn't get an A in :(.
 

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