Is Big Boss a hero or a villain?

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The discussion centers around the character Big Boss from the "Metal Gear Solid" video game series, exploring whether he is a hero or a villain. Participants examine his ideology, actions, and the perceptions of him within the context of modern society and historical parallels.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants describe Big Boss as a legendary soldier and military leader, admired by some as a war hero while feared by others as a tyrant.
  • It is noted that Big Boss aimed to create a "soldier's paradise," opposing the exploitation of soldiers by governments, which some view as a noble cause.
  • Others draw parallels between Big Boss's ideology and historical figures, suggesting that his vision of perpetual war resembles primitive forms of governance and is reminiscent of the Third Reich.
  • One participant questions the morality of Big Boss's goals, comparing them to Hitler's aspirations for constant conflict, suggesting that such ideologies can be seen as inherently flawed.
  • Another participant comments on the complexity of the narrative in "Metal Gear," indicating that the motivations of characters, including Big Boss, are difficult to ascertain due to the convoluted storyline.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on Big Boss's character, with some seeing him as a misguided visionary while others view him as a dangerous ideologue. There is no consensus on whether he should be classified as a hero or a villain.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference historical contexts and ideologies, but the discussion remains open-ended regarding the implications of Big Boss's beliefs and actions.

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Big Boss, from the critically acclaimed "Metal Gear Solid" video game series

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Big Boss, the legendary soldier, was considered as "The Greatest Warrior of the 20th Century", and a brilliant military leader and was hailed as a war hero by admirers and feared as a tyrant by his enemies

he developed an ideology, his belief was that he wanted to start a "soldier's paradise" a place where soldiers, are always needed, and not tools of governments.. he founded Outer Heaven, a state fortress located in South Africa, he dreamed, as he interpreted the boss, his mentor's theories...which involved ending the abuse and exploitation of soldiers by the world's governments

what do you guys think

modern academics and media, and general people would consider him a nutcase, insane
 
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KidZero said:
what do you guys think

modern academics and media, and general people would consider him a nutcase, insane


Gross. I've been reading about the Third Reich, and these seems like basically the same thing.

As to "insane," I don't think they have a mental pathology. It is a primitive form of government. The Roman Empire basically thought this way. It's precivilization, barbarous. Many young men seem to be attracted to this kind of thing.
 
So he wants a world locked in perpetual war, where war is more of a goal in and itself rather than a tool? He sounds like a nut. Didnt Hitler dream of a world where every generation would have his war? Then again, Hitler kept saying one thing and the exact opposite moments later, you can paint the man any way you quote him.
 
Metal Gear's story is so batsh*** crazy that it's hard to determine anyone characters motivations enough to determine their noteriety.
 

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