Is Complex Differentiation Defined for Linear Transformations?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the concept of complex differentiation in the context of linear transformations in a 2-dimensional vector space over real numbers. Participants explore the definition and implications of using a limit-based approach to define a complex derivative, particularly in relation to linear transformations and their properties.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes an alternative definition for complex differentiation using a limit involving a linear transformation T on a vector z in the form of a 2D vector.
  • Another participant questions the need for an alternative definition and challenges the clarity of the proposed limit, particularly regarding the division by a vector z' in the context of multivariable functions.
  • A third participant suggests calculating an explicit example based on the proposed derivative definition.
  • A later reply attempts to illustrate the proposed definition using the derivative of the function z^2, but presents a transformation that does not adhere to linearity.
  • Another participant critiques the example provided, stating it does not represent a linear transformation and raises concerns about the validity of dividing a vector by another vector.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the validity and utility of the proposed alternative definition for complex differentiation. There is no consensus on whether the approach is appropriate or whether the examples provided adhere to the conditions of linear transformations.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the unclear treatment of division involving vectors and the potential misalignment of examples with the properties of linear transformations.

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Let z = [a b]^T be in the 2-dimensional vector space over real numbers, and T a linear transformation on the vector space.

Consider

$$\lim_{z'\rightarrow \mathbf{0}} \frac{T(z+z')-T(z)}{z'}$$

I argue this could be an alternative definition for complex derivative.

To illustrate this, z as a complex number ##a+bi## is a vector [a b]^T and z' is a tiny vector parallel to z. Taking the limit, z+z' approaches z and the limit approaches the rate of change of T at z.

<Moderator's note: please use the proper wrappers, ## ## and $$ $$, for LaTeX.>
 
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Is there a particular reason why you would need an alternative definition for the derivative of a complex function?

In your formula, it is not clear what you mean when you divide by ##z'## when ##z'## is regarded as an element of ##\mathbb{R}^2##. For multivariable functions, the difference quotient definition of the total derivative is not useful.

In any case, any reasonable definition of the derivative of a linear transformation of ##\mathbb{R}^2## at a point will reproduce that linear transformation itself.

Incidentally, this is useful to find out how to embed ##\LaTeX## in your posts here.
 
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Let's calculate an explicit example with your new derivative.
 
The reason is I want to get rid of the difficulties with the complex log multi-function.

An example: The derivative of ##z^2 = (a + bi)^2## equals ##2z##. Let ##z := [a\;\;\;b]^T## and ##T([a \;\;\; b]^T) := [a^2 \;\;\; b^2]^T##.

##\lim_{\delta z\rightarrow \mathbf{0}} \frac{T(z+\delta z)-T(z)}{\delta z}=

\lim_{\delta z\rightarrow \mathbf{0}} \frac{[(a+\delta a)^2\;\; (b+\delta b)^2]^T}{[\delta a \;\;\; \delta b]^T}##

Simplifying and factoring out yields

##\lim_{\delta z\rightarrow \mathbf{0}} \frac{[2a\delta a\;\; 2b\delta b]^T}{[\delta a \;\;\; \delta b]^T} =
2[a\;\;\; b]^T.##

##2[a\;\;\; b]^2## corresponds to ##2z##.
 
Your example is not a linear transformation, violating the conditions of post 1. I don't understand why you wanted this to limit to linear transformations anyway, but you did.

The fraction of a vector and a vector is generally undefined.
 

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