Is country-scale corruption possible without a big government?

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The discussion centers around the relationship between government size and the prevalence of corruption, specifically questioning whether significant corruption can occur in countries with small governments. Participants explore historical examples and theoretical implications of corruption in various governmental contexts.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that larger governments facilitate corruption through mechanisms like political connections and government intervention in markets, citing examples from countries like Portugal and the US.
  • Others question the premise by asking for historical examples of high corruption in small governments, suggesting that corruption can exist independently of government size.
  • One participant mentions that small towns can exhibit high levels of corruption, implying that size does not necessarily correlate with the presence of corrupt practices.
  • Another participant points to dictatorships as examples of small governments that can be highly corrupt.
  • There is a suggestion that corruption operates on both large and small scales, indicating its pervasive nature regardless of government size.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between government size and corruption. While some believe that larger governments inherently lead to more corruption, others contend that corruption can also thrive in smaller governmental structures. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various historical and theoretical contexts but do not provide specific examples or detailed analyses of corruption in small governments, leaving gaps in the discussion regarding definitions and scope.

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A big government (characterized by a significant spending as % of GDP, like the European governments, US, Canada, Japan, etc...) obviously makes it easier for a wide-scale corruption to exist. In Portugal, Italy, Greece, among others, this is where the corruption is coming from. Corruption shows up in the form of, for example, subsidizing and helping companies whose CEO has connections in politics (like private schools, hospitals, banks, etc...) and monopolies that exist because of government intervention (energy market in Portugal for example). Basically there's a misuse of political power to support private interests. In US, many banks obviously use the power of government for their own benefit.

Now, on my question: are there historical examples of significant corruption on the scale of a country, without big government? If the state is very small, won't be the big companies the ones "making the rules", and exert their power onto others, for their own benefit?
 
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I cannot understand your question. It may be possible to gain some insight into the subject you've raised here:
“Transparency International is the world’s foremost organization on fighting corruption. It has 90 chapters worldwide, which aim to raise awareness and establish methods of tackling corruption and measuring its harmful effects.”
http://rt.com/news/transparency-report-corruption-rises-861/
 
Are there historical examples of countries with high corruption and a small government?
 
Tosh5457 said:
Are there historical examples of countries with high corruption and a small government?
Of course there are, think of small towns where all officials are corrupt and run the town. Size has nothing to do with corruption. Think of small countries in Africa.

You need to do more research if you want to start a thread about the subject.
 
Dictatorships are the ultimate example of this: tiny governments, total corruption.
 
Corruption knows no bounds. It works at large scale and small scale. Small scale:

 
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