Is Emo Music the New Grunge of the 21st Century?

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The discussion revolves around the comparison of emo music to grunge music from the 1990s, exploring the characteristics, cultural implications, and evolution of emo as a genre. Participants express their views on the talent within emo music, its roots in punk, and its appeal to different demographics, while also referencing the influence of mainstream media.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note the raw talent in emo music, citing bands like Pedro the Lion and Sleater Kinney, while expressing curiosity about its future.
  • Others argue that emo is an offshoot of punk that appeals more to preadolescent girls, suggesting that popular emo bands resemble boy bands rather than traditional punk/rock bands.
  • There is a sentiment that mainstream media, particularly MTV, heavily influences music today, contrasting it with underground hip-hop/rap.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the emergence of another grunge movement, suggesting that the music landscape has changed significantly.
  • Questions are raised about the thematic content of emo music, particularly regarding its focus on personal relationships and emotional struggles.
  • There are references to the ongoing relevance of older rock acts and their ability to maintain creativity despite mainstream pressures.
  • One participant mentions the formation of a new band by ex-Guns N' Roses members, indicating a continued interest in classic rock influences.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of opinions, with some appreciating the talent in emo music while others critique its commercial aspects and demographic appeal. There is no consensus on whether emo can be considered the new grunge, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the future trajectory of both genres.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various bands and cultural phenomena without fully establishing definitions or parameters for emo and grunge, leading to potential misunderstandings about genre characteristics and influences.

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I've heard some pretty good music from this relatively new emo genre... well, at least from two bands anyway Pedro the Lion and Sleater Kinney. Anyway, I'm not that familiar with emo music because I'm too old to be an emo (that was a joke BTW), but I think there is some raw talent there that isn't yet being corrupted by the mainstream MTV types. It will be interesting to see how the story unfolds.

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yes there is some talent there, but i think it was an offshoot of the punk genre that was more appealing to preadolescent girls, with the result of the more popular bands resembling more of a newer form of boy band than punk/rock band like they try to portray. example, watch a new found glory video, and you'll see what I'm talking about.

almost all music now is influenced in some way by mtv (excluding the music that mtv plays). a lot of underground hip-hop/rap shows a huge contrast to its mainstream counterparts. also many of the older rock acts are showing some come-back, or at least a slight bump in popularity, and they're generally established enough to do there own thing, I'm thinking of stuff like foo fighters (btw, they got a video banned), rhcp, pearl jam, and radiohead. true, they do get played on mtv, and that draws a superficial fan base, but their creativity has kept them alive.

and i don't think there will be another grunge.
 
So what's Emo all about then?
 
So what's Emo all about then?

guys singing about how much their love lives suck? and according to http://www.emogame.com, they have ovaries.
 
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Save the get up kids from steven tylers *childish phrase*! i hate it already, how can they diss a legend like steven tyler.
 
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No. If your referring to like, Nsync type rubbish, then just know that all the grunge ppl from the 90's are plotting againts them as we speak.
 
Well i don't know if anyones interested in this but it would appear that the ex Guns N Roses members and Scott weiland have decided to form a band and they are pretty damn good, have a song called set me free on the HULK soundtrack, that's quite a cool song, was going to say about Axl roses new band releasing an album at the end of the year but he was supposed to do that last year, and the year before that, and the year before that, and... well u get the idea, Axl has done some really good stuff though, check out "The Blues" and "Madagascar" if you like stuff like November rain and estranged.

If they all get their **** together it will really kick ass.
 

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