Is Feeding the Homeless in Public Parks Legal?

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The discussion revolves around the legality and implications of feeding homeless individuals in public parks, particularly in light of a city ordinance that was struck down. Participants explore the social, ethical, and practical dimensions of this issue, including the impact on community spaces and the motivations behind feeding programs.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that feeding homeless individuals is akin to feeding any person in public, emphasizing their humanity.
  • Others express concern that feeding programs attract large numbers of homeless individuals to parks, which can disrupt the enjoyment of these spaces for other community members.
  • There is a viewpoint that the law prohibiting feeding homeless people was unjust and discriminatory, as it singled out a specific group.
  • Participants mention that the mayor believes feeding should occur in structured environments with social services, suggesting that this approach is more beneficial for the homeless.
  • Some express skepticism about the effectiveness of social services, citing personal experiences of being treated poorly in such environments, which may deter homeless individuals from seeking help.
  • A participant humorously speculates that the law's author may have been influenced by a documentary about feeding bears in national parks, drawing a parallel to the feeding of homeless individuals.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to feeding the homeless. There are competing views on the effectiveness of direct feeding versus structured social services, as well as differing opinions on the implications of the law that was struck down.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the complexity of the issue, including the social dynamics at play and the potential negative consequences of feeding programs in public spaces. There are also references to broader societal attitudes towards homelessness and the role of government in addressing these issues.

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District Judge Robert Jones has struck down the city ordinance that attempted to stop food being distributed to homeless people in public parks.
http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=6975614

Wow, talk about a story that is hard to give positive spin!
 
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My opinion on this is that giving food to a homeless person is like giving food to a random person walking down the street. They are human, but they are just looked down upon.
 
I'm just about positive the problem wasn't feeding the homeless, but attracting them in large numbers to the park. As you see later in the article they wanted to designate the park "Children Only". I know from experience here that anywhere these nice churches set up free meal give aways for the homless pretty much become unusable by other people. You can no longer lounge around the park enjoying it cause you're getting hit up for change, and you also see a lot of disturbing behavior you wouldn't want your kids to see.

It's great that people do feed them, but some thought should be given to how they are affecting the area where they distribute the meals. They used to do it downtown here in a vacant lot. The homeless would start gathering before the meal, and some pretty much never left the block.
 
zoobyshoe said:
I'm just about positive the problem wasn't feeding the homeless, but attracting them in large numbers to the park.

No doubt. Nonetheless, passing a law that exclusively forbids feeding homeless people is really too much to believe. The law was struck down because you can't single out a particular group for non-feeding.
 
Ivan Seeking said:
The law was struck down because you can't single out a particular group for non-feeding.
I doubt if there's a specific law prohibiting this, but it's clear from existing anti-discrimination laws that such a thing would be against the grain. Whoever proposed this law lost sight of that and has probably now lost credibility in future attempts to keep the parks family friendly.
 
zoobyshoe said:
Whoever proposed this law lost sight of that and has probably now lost credibility...

I should hope! They ought to be tossed out on their butts for being idiots; not to mention heartless.
 
Ivan Seeking said:
I should hope! They ought to be tossed out on their butts for being idiots; not to mention heartless.

It's more complex that that:

Not so says Mayor Goodman. He says people who feed the homeless in the parks really aren't helping them.

"What we're trying to do is get the homeless to be fed in a social service environment, within a faith based environment, where there's a social worker, a doctor that puts them on meds, you get them back into society, instead of feeding them and running and leaving them there," said Goodman.

However, the homeless don't like the control this gives the social service agencies:

But Huff, who used to be homeless, says there's a reason some people don't want help from those agencies.

"They're treated less than human down there, it's not helping, that's why we have chronic homeless in Las Vegas, because they go down there and are pushed around, they have their little rules and they're treated like dogs," said Huff.

http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=5235763
 
"Not so says Mayor Goodman. He says people who feed the homeless in the parks really aren't helping them. What we're trying to do is get the homeless to be fed in a social service environment, within a faith based environment, where there's a social worker
I can't believe a government official would say "within a faith based environment". WTH??

But Huff, who used to be homeless, says there's a reason some people don't want help from those agencies.

"They're treated less than human down there, it's not helping, that's why we have chronic homeless in Las Vegas, because they go down there and are pushed around, they have their little rules and they're treated like dogs," said Huff.
I guess Huff has never been to the DMV or ANY government agency.
 
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My guess is that the 'someone', who originally wrote the law, saw that special on the tourists feeding the bears at Yellowstone (and why they banned that and garbage dumps)
 
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Evo said:
I can't believe a government official would say "within a faith based environment". WTH??
Especially in Las Vegas. You may recall Stephen King chose that city as the gathering place of the forces of Evil in The Stand.

Anyway, I, too, found that to be hard to believe coming from a government official's mouth. I'm thinking it was meant as an attempt to make sure he hadn't just alientated church groups who feed the homeless by having just ascribed responsibility for this to Social Services. In other words, he hadn't completely composed the thought before he started speaking.
 

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