Is Kronecker Delta a Coordinate-Independent Identity Operator?

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The discussion centers on defining the Kronecker delta, \(\delta^a_b\), as a coordinate-independent identity operator on curved manifolds. Participants suggest that it can be expressed as \(\delta^a_b = g^{ac}g_{bc}\) using abstract index notation. The conversation highlights the relationship between the Kronecker delta and the identity operator, emphasizing that \(\delta^a_b X^b = X^a\) holds true across all coordinate systems. The concept of the "musical isomorphism" is also introduced as a means to establish a coordinate-independent definition.

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Can anyone give me a coordinate-independent definition of \delta^a_b on curved manifolds?

Should it be defined as \delta^a_b = g^{ac}g_{bc} where abstract index notation has been used?
 
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You could define it that way. Then again, you could take that as the definition for g^{ab} (the inverse metric) :smile:
One problem, is that we are used to thinking of the Kronecker delta as "the thing which is 1 iff the indices are equal, and 0 otherwise" which of course, introduces coordinates right away. I am wondering if "the unit tensor" (e.g. dxd unit matrix) is a coordinate independent statement... :smile:
 
I find that,

g_b^a = g^{an}g_{nb} = \delta_b^a

but I can't prove it.
 
I though that was the definition of the inverse metric. Basically you have written down that
g^{-1} g = I
 
Yep. Going round in cicles. Break the circle at any point and select a definition.

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jdstokes said:
Can anyone give me a coordinate-independent definition of \delta^a_b on curved manifolds?

Should it be defined as \delta^a_b = g^{ac}g_{bc} where abstract index notation has been used?

If your manifold has a metric, you can give a perfectly good coordinate-independent definition of the Kronecker tensor (and, indeed, its generalizations) in terms of the so-called "musical isomorphism" between the tangent space and cotangent space.

This is pretty basic stuff, but beyond a yearning for strict coordinate-independence, I can't see any actual advantage in using such a definition.
 
CompuChip said:
I am wondering if "the unit tensor" (e.g. dxd unit matrix) is a coordinate independent statement... :smile:
You are nearly there. The coordinate-free version of a matrix is a linear operator, a function that maps vectors to vectors (or covectors to covectors).

So the Kronecker delta is just the identity operator \delta (\textbf{X}) = \textbf{X} acting on any tangent space (or cotangent space).

This follows from the coordinate expression \delta^a_b X^b = X^a which is true in every coordinate system.
 

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