Is Love Simply a Mathematical Equation?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between love and mathematics, exploring whether love can be understood or expressed through mathematical concepts. Participants touch on various perspectives, including personal anecdotes, references to literature, and the roles of different scientific disciplines in understanding love.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that love can be reduced to a mathematical formula, referencing the Hodge conjecture, but later acknowledges this may not be accurate.
  • Another participant humorously expresses a desire to find a partner who can use the term "orthogonal" in conversation.
  • Several participants discuss Edward Frenkel's views on love and mathematics, noting that while he is a mathematician, his work often reflects a deeper appreciation for mathematics rather than romantic love.
  • Some participants argue that love is better understood by neuroscientists and other applied scientists rather than pure mathematicians, with one participant humorously asserting that theorists have no practical application.
  • There is a shared appreciation for Frenkel's writing style and the way he intertwines personal narrative with mathematical exploration, though some clarify that his work is not primarily about romantic love.
  • One participant mentions a specific mathematical equation related to love, $$r=a(1-sin\theta$$, suggesting a mathematical representation of love.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement and differing opinions regarding the role of mathematics in understanding love. While some appreciate the intersection of the two fields, others maintain that love is best addressed by disciplines outside of pure mathematics. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views.

Contextual Notes

Some statements rely on personal interpretations of literature and the nature of love, which may not be universally applicable. The discussion also reflects varying definitions of love and its relationship to mathematics, indicating a lack of consensus on the topic.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those exploring the philosophical implications of mathematics, the intersection of emotional and scientific perspectives, or the literary contributions of mathematicians.

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The only reason I don’t know more about love is because there just isn’t more to know. In fact, I’ve reduced love to a mathematical formula. "Let X be a non-singular complex projective manifold. Then every Hodge class on X is a linear combination with rational coefficients of the cohomology classes of complex subvarieties of X."

Actually, that’s not right. That’s the statement piece of the Hodge conjecture, but I’m sure you already knew that.
 
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I will find the love of my life as soon as I can find a woman that can use the word "orthogonal" in casual conversation.

-Dan
 
topsquark said:
I will find the love of my life as soon as I can find a woman that can use the word "orthogonal" in casual conversation.

-Dan

That's hilarious.
 
This makes me want to ask what everyone thinks about Edward Frenkels love and math shenanigans. As i know, he is an exceptional mathematician, but he seems to really have a thing to say about Love and Math. What do you think?
 
Joppy said:
This makes me want to ask what everyone thinks about Edward Frenkels love and math shenanigans. As i know, he is an exceptional mathematician, but he seems to really have a thing to say about Love and Math. What do you think?

Love is something for neuroscientists to address, who are applied chemists, who are applied physicists, who are applied mathematicians...so I think mathematicians really don't have much to say about love at this point. :D
 
MarkFL said:
Love is something for neuroscientists to address, who are applied chemists, who are applied physicists, who are applied mathematicians...so I think pure mathematicians really don't have much to say about love at this point. :D

Haha yes. Good point. Agree.
 
MarkFL said:
Love is something for neuroscientists to address, who are applied chemists, who are applied physicists, who are applied mathematicians...so I think mathematicians really don't have much to say about love at this point. :D
Hey! I'm a theorist. Nothing I do can be applied!

-Dan
 
Joppy said:
This makes me want to ask what everyone thinks about Edward Frenkel's love and math shenanigans. As I know, he is an exceptional mathematician, but he seems to really have a thing to say about Love and Math. What do you think?

I've read that book. I'm currently re-reading it, in fact. I thought it was tremendously good. It's not really about romantic love, but much more about a love for mathematics - mathematics in all its glorious beauty. I read the book for the first time right after reading The Art of Mathematics, by Jerry P. King, another fantastic book I would recommend to anyone. It's rare to find articulate mathematicians willing to write about mathematics. Most of them are too busy actually doing mathematics. But it is good for the layman to understand why mathematicians do what they do (as King wrote, it is for aesthetic reasons, and Frenkel would definitely agree).
 
Ackbach said:
I've read that book. I'm currently re-reading it, in fact. I thought it was tremendously good. It's not really about romantic love, but much more about a love for mathematics - mathematics in all its glorious beauty.

I totally agree. One of the reasons i really enjoyed the book is due to the way Frenkel has written it. In my eyes, the book is simultaneously a bibliography of Frenkels life, and also filled with fairly detailed mathematical discovery.

It's great to be able to read another persons life account, along with the mathematics that they and those around them discovered.

And yes, it is not until the final chapters that love is mentioned in a more 'mysterious' sort of way. In fact the book never gave me the impression that it was about romantic love, it is only Frenkels appearance in videos online that gave me that lead me to that.

Ackbach said:
I read the book for the first time right after reading The Art of Mathematics, by Jerry P. King, another fantastic book I would recommend to anyone.

Thank you for this recommendation.

Ackbach said:
It's rare to find articulate mathematicians willing to write about mathematics. Most of them are too busy actually doing mathematics. But it is good for the layman to understand why mathematicians do what they do (as King wrote, it is for aesthetic reasons, and Frenkel would definitely agree).

This is coherent with G. H. Hardy's opening words in A Mathematician's Apology,

It is a melancholy experience for a professional mathematician to
find himself writing about mathematics. The function of a
mathematician is to do something, to prove new theorems, to add
to mathematics, and not to talk about what he or other mathematicians
have done.
 
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I thought the love equation was $$r=a(1-sin\theta)$$
 
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Ackbach said:
I've read that book. I'm currently re-reading it, in fact. I thought it was tremendously good. It's not really about romantic love, but much more about a love for mathematics - mathematics in all its glorious beauty. I read the book for the first time right after reading The Art of Mathematics, by Jerry P. King, another fantastic book I would recommend to anyone. It's rare to find articulate mathematicians willing to write about mathematics. Most of them are too busy actually doing mathematics. But it is good for the layman to understand why mathematicians do what they do (as King wrote, it is for aesthetic reasons, and Frenkel would definitely agree).

Thanks again for this recommendation. I purchased it online as i read your post, it arrived this week and i just finished it. A good book indeed.

Its made me realize how important it is to read expository material on ones field of interest. I even think that undergraduates would benefit greatly from reading such material, enabling them to understand what their major is actually about (not just expositions on math, but other subjects too).
 

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