Is physics being recorded in any really hard-to-destroy way?

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In summary, the author suggests that making a more permanent record may be a good idea, and that if a global cataclysm wiped out all of the information, the loss of that information would be way down on our list of problems.
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In recent centuries a relative handful of brilliant people have devoted their lives to figuring out some very difficult things and developing some ingenious tools to do so along the way. However, as far as I know, the only places this work has been recorded is on things that are easily destroyed - paper, hard-drives and human brains. None of those things will stand the test of time. One natural disaster and all this progress could be wiped out in one fell swoop (which is obviously not unprecedented), leaving future civilizations having to rediscover things from scratch.

Then you look at what archaeologists have found that have taught us about the past, stuff that has lasted tens of thousands of years. Stuff made out of much more durable materials. Shouldn't some committee be looking to make a more permanent record in the same way? Or is this being done already?

I'm aware that a future civilization might not speak any language that exists today, but perhaps that could be overcome, if a language/alphabet came with diagrams of how to form certain sounds with your mouth or something. What do you think?
 
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Doofy said:
In recent centuries a relative handful of brilliant people have devoted their lives to figuring out some very difficult things and developing some ingenious tools to do so along the way. However, as far as I know, the only places this work has been recorded is on things that are easily destroyed - paper, hard-drives and human brains. None of those things will stand the test of time. One natural disaster and all this progress could be wiped out in one fell swoop (which is obviously not unprecedented), leaving future civilizations having to rediscover things from scratch.

Then you look at what archaeologists have found that have taught us about the past, stuff that has lasted tens of thousands of years. Stuff made out of much more durable materials. Shouldn't some committee be looking to make a more permanent record in the same way? Or is this being done already?

I'm aware that a future civilization might not speak any language that exists today, but perhaps that could be overcome, if a language/alphabet came with diagrams of how to form certain sounds with your mouth or something. What do you think?

If you haven't read it already, "A Canticle for Leibowitz" is a really imaginitive rendering of the problem of preserving knowledge.
 
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I haven't read it, no. What does it suggest and is it happening?
 
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Doofy said:
I haven't read it, no. What does it suggest and is it happening?

It is cold-war era science fiction. Happily, the world that it imagined never came to pass, but it deals with the fragility of knowledge and society in an interesting way.
 
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The best way to ensure longevity of information is to make backups. Since all of the important ideas have thousands or millions of copies, residing all over the globe, that's about as well as the longevity can be assured. If a global cataclysm wiped-out all of that information, the loss of that information would be way down on our list of problems.
 
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If a global cataclysm wiped-out all of that information, the loss of that information would be way down on our list of problems.
The information how to make various tools, chemicals and other things with basic equipment or leftover equipment of our civilization would certainly be interesting.
Recent publications do not help there, of course - no one cares about the mass of a Higgs boson if you want to make steel tools from scratch.
 

1. What do you mean by physics being recorded in a hard-to-destroy way?

By hard-to-destroy, we mean a method of recording that is highly resistant to damage or loss, such as using durable materials or storing data in multiple locations.

2. Why is it important to have a hard-to-destroy record of physics?

Having a hard-to-destroy record of physics ensures that valuable scientific data and knowledge are preserved for future generations. It also provides a reliable source of information for researchers to build upon and advance scientific understanding.

3. How is physics currently being recorded in a hard-to-destroy way?

There are several methods currently being used to record physics in a hard-to-destroy way. These include storing data on durable media such as hard drives, creating redundant copies of data in multiple locations, and using specialized storage facilities designed to withstand natural disasters and other potential threats.

4. Are there any potential risks or challenges to recording physics in a hard-to-destroy way?

While there are many benefits to having a hard-to-destroy record of physics, there are also potential risks and challenges. These may include the cost of maintaining and updating storage facilities, the potential for data loss due to human error or technological failures, and the need for ongoing monitoring and management of the stored data.

5. Can we guarantee that physics will always be recorded in a hard-to-destroy way?

Unfortunately, there is no way to guarantee that physics will always be recorded in a hard-to-destroy way. However, by implementing robust storage methods and constantly improving and updating technology, we can greatly minimize the risk of losing valuable scientific data and knowledge.

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