Is the Ground State of a System Always Pure?

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The discussion revolves around the nature of the ground state in quantum systems, specifically whether it is always a pure state. Participants explore concepts related to pure and mixed states, entanglement, and the implications of statistical properties in quantum mechanics.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether the ground state of a system is always pure, referencing a statement about entanglement and mixed states at finite temperatures.
  • Another participant asserts that any state represented by a vector in Hilbert space, including the ground state, is a pure quantum state.
  • A different viewpoint emphasizes the significance of mixed states in studying statistical properties of systems, noting that a mixed state does not represent a "proper" state and can arise from tracing out degrees of freedom in composite systems.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of the ground state, with some asserting it is always pure while others highlight the role of mixed states, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference concepts such as entanglement, density matrices, and the implications of subsystem analysis, but do not resolve the conditions under which ground states may be considered pure or mixed.

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Hello

I read the following statement somewhere:

"... we study the entaglement of the ground state and the mixed state at finite temperatures ..."

Does this mean that the ground state of a system is always pure? :confused:

Thanks
 
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Any state that can be represented by a vector in the Hilbert space (e.g., any solution of the stationary Schroedinger equation, including the ground state solution) is a pure quantum state.

Eugene.
 
Mixed state are important when you study statistical properties of a system. I.e. the density matrix describes the property of an ensemble (which is why the . Hence, a mixed state does not describe a "proper" state as such.
You can also get what is sometimes known as an "improper" mixture if you study a specific subsystem of a composite system by tracing out all other degrees of freedom.
 
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