John Roberts' Clever Wit in "AT&T v. FCC" Opinion

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The discussion revolves around the Supreme Court decision in "AT&T v. FCC," particularly focusing on the interpretation of "personal privacy" as it relates to corporations and the implications of the ruling on the privacy rights of juridical persons. Participants explore the nuances of legal definitions and the potential consequences of the ruling on corporate privacy.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants highlight the cleverness of Chief Justice Roberts' writing style in the decision, noting the play on words regarding "personal privacy."
  • One participant questions whether the ruling implies that juridical persons, such as corporations, are not entitled to any privacy rights.
  • Another participant humorously suggests that the entitlement to privacy for juridical persons may depend on financial contributions, referencing a fictional scam email.
  • A participant seeks clarification on whether the ruling allows for unrestricted access to corporate internal information under FOIA, raising concerns about privacy protections.
  • Another participant counters that certain information remains protected under different FOIA exemptions, specifically mentioning Exemption 4, which covers trade secrets and commercial or financial secrets.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of the ruling for corporate privacy, with some questioning the extent of privacy protections for corporations while others assert that certain information is still safeguarded under existing exemptions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the overall impact of the ruling on corporate privacy rights.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific legal terms and exemptions related to FOIA, indicating a need for clarity on the definitions and implications of these terms in the context of the ruling. There is an acknowledgment of the complexity surrounding the interpretation of privacy rights for juridical persons.

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Funny supreme court decision written by Roberts. http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/10pdf/09-1279.pdf

AT&T’s argument treats the term “personal privacy” as simply the sum of its two words: the privacy of a person. Under that view, the defined meaning of the noun “person,” or the asserted specialized legal meaning, takes on greater significance. But two words together may assume a more particular meaning than those words in isolation. We understand a golden cup to be a cup made of or resembling gold. A golden boy, on the other hand, is one who is charming, lucky, and talented. A golden opportunity is one not to be missed. “Personal” in the phrase “personal privacy” conveys more than just “of a person.” It suggests a type of privacy evocative of human concerns—not the sort usually associated with an entity like, say, AT&T.

We reject the argument that because “person” is defined for purposes of FOIA to include a corporation, the phrase “personal privacy” in Exemption 7(C) reaches corporations as well. The protection in FOIA against disclosure of law enforcement information on the ground that it would constitute an unwarranted invasion of personal privacy does not extend to corporations. We trust that AT&T will not take it personally.
 
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DanP said:
Cant this ruling be interpreted that a juridical person is not entitled to privacy of any kind ?

Depends on how much money the juridical person sends us:

Dear Nigerian Juridical Person:

I need to ask you to support an urgent secret business relationship with a transfer of funds of great magnitude.

I am Ministry of the Treasury of the Republic of America. My country has had crisis that has caused the need for large transfer of funds of 800 billion dollars US. If you would assist me in this transfer, it would be most profitable to you.

I am working with Mr. Phil Gram, lobbyist for UBS, who will be my replacement as Ministry of the Treasury in January. As a Senator, you may know him as the leader of the American banking deregulation movement in the 1990s. This transactin is 100% safe.

This is a matter of great urgency. We need a blank check. We need the funds as quickly as possible. We cannot directly transfer these funds in the names of our close friends because we are constantly under surveillance. My family lawyer advised me that I should look for a reliable and trustworthy person who will act as a next of kin so the funds can be transferred.

Please reply with all of your bank account, IRA and college fund account numbers and those of your children and grandchildren to wallstreetbailout@treasury.gov so that we may transfer your commission for this transaction. After I receive that information, I will respond with detailed information about safeguards that will be used to protect the funds.

Yours Faithfully Minister of Treasury Paulson
 
No, I am asking if information about a company internals reached the government, following a investigation or anything, is there anything which can be considered private after this ruling ?

Or anyone can use FOIA to claim now access to knowledge about internals of the company, books, etc, from gov because they are not longer offered any privacy ?
 
No. Some information is still protected from FOIA via a different exemption (Exemption 4 - trade secrets and commercial or financial secrets). AT&T wanted to prevent the disclosure of some other information that would be embarrassing to the company.
 
We trust that AT&T will not take it personally.

Brilliant!