Kids Ride on Toy Car Battery/Voltage

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The discussion revolves around troubleshooting a ride-on toy car's remote control steering functionality after upgrading the battery from a 12v 7ah to a 12v 12ah lead-acid battery. Participants explore potential causes for the steering issue, including the possibility of a malfunctioning remote or receiver, and the effects of the new battery on the system.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that the increased amp-hour (ah) rating of the new battery should not affect the steering functionality, as ah relates to battery life rather than power output.
  • Another participant proposes that the issue may stem from disturbed connections during the battery replacement process, recommending a visual inspection of electrical connectors.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the battery voltage being the cause of the problem, emphasizing that the slight increase in voltage is unlikely to be relevant.
  • There is a suggestion to check the steering motor connections for voltage when attempting to use the remote, indicating a potential issue with the steering mechanism itself.
  • A later reply indicates that the participant tested the steering motor wires and found no voltage, leading to the purchase of a new receiver and remote, which resolved the issue.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the increased ah of the new battery is not likely the cause of the steering issue. However, there remains uncertainty regarding whether the problem lies with the remote, the receiver, or the steering motor itself, as no consensus is reached on the exact cause.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need for visual inspections and testing of components, but the discussion does not resolve the underlying cause of the steering malfunction prior to the replacement of the receiver and remote.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals troubleshooting similar issues with ride-on toy cars, particularly those involving remote control functionality and battery upgrades.

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Hi all

I have a ride on toy car for my 2 year old daughter and the battery died after not using the car for a few months. The battery was a 12v 7ah rechargable lead acid battery.

I decided to upgrade the battery to a 12v 12ah one and having charged it up and fitted it in the car, I have lost the ability to turn the car left or right from the remote control (the remote operates via a 2.4ghz receiver). The back and forward function works fine as does the stop button and speed increase/decrease button. The battery is showing a voltage of 13.4v whereas before it was around 12.7v with the 7ah battery. The car turns fine manually from the steering wheel.

My understanding is that the increased ah on the new battery is only relevant to how long the car will last after a charge but I am now assuming this is wrong...

Could the increased ah of the new battery prevent the car from turning left or right from the remote i.e. is there too much power going into the receiver? I have attached a picture of the receiver.

One thing I would add here is that when I press the back/forward button, I can hear a signal received 'click' from the receiver unit in the car whereas there is no such sound when I press left/right so could it just be the receiver unit has malfunctioned either naturally or as a result of the increased ah? With the latter, I would have thought the whole receiver unit would have failed in this situation? This could be a red herring though as no click is heard when I press the speed buttons or the stop button. That said, could that be because these functions are within the remote itself only!

There is also of course also the possibility that the remote has broken. Is there a way I could check if it is a signal issue? I have opened the remote and all seems fine in there visually.

I will be very grateful for any help please and I apologise if this issue is too basic for this forum/thread.

Thank you all.
 

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I don't think it has anything to do with the larger battery. Maybe something was disturbed when you were servicing it? One thing I would do is open up the car and, with power disconnected, unplug and visually inspect each of the electrical connectors. Sometimes contacts get dirty or are misplaced, etc.

I agree it definitely might be a problem with the remote. Without an oscilloscope or some sort of receiver, I don't see an easy way to check the remote. Maybe you could see a small drop in the battery voltage with a DVM when it's transmitting?
 
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Just drive the car forward and back till the voltage drops to 12.7V and see if anything changes (I am with @DaveE though, quite unlikely the voltage is the reason).
 
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taz24 said:
My understanding is that the increased ah on the new battery is only relevant to how long the car will last after a charge but I am now assuming this is wrong...
No, it is correct. AH is a measure of how much current it COULD provide not how much it is providing. Voltage is what matters but I agree w/ others that the slight increase does not seem like a likely culprit.
 
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taz24 said:
My understanding is that the increased ah on the new battery is only relevant to how long the car will last after a charge but I am now assuming this is wrong...
  1. That is pretty much the only effect. The bigger (new) battery will likely produce slightly more maximum (short circuit) amps also but that is likely not relevant to this problem.. I would
  2. locate the steering motor(s) and visually inspect it for the usual issues.
  3. If they are standard two-wire connections, disconnct and test the lines for volts when you try the remote steering
I am assuming there is a electro-mechanical steering rig. I suppose they could do the remote steering another way: *differential power" for instance.
Most likely you will find a wire you disturbed during battery replacement. Think: did the remote steering work immediately prior?
 
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Hi guys

Just thought I would follow up on this.

Firstly, thank you to all that replied - it is very much appreciated!

I tried the suggested ideas but all without success! I tested the two wires going to the steering motor but these showed a 0 reading no matter what buttons I pressed on the remote.

Ultimately, I purchased a new receiver and remote to try as they were relatively cheap and to my amazement (as nothing ever works first time!!), the steering has started working again. I guess we will never know if it was the remote or the receiver that was dead!

Thanks again guys.
 
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