Kim Jong Il: Is There a More Beloved Leader?

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The discussion revolves around the leadership of Kim Jong Il, exploring perceptions of his popularity among the North Korean populace and the implications of his health and potential succession. The scope includes political commentary, speculation on leadership dynamics, and cultural references.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express a satirical view of Kim Jong Il's popularity, suggesting he is revered to an extreme degree, with exaggerated claims about his personal life.
  • Others speculate on the secrecy surrounding his health and the possibility of his death, questioning the future of North Korea under his potential successors.
  • There are claims about Kim Jong Il's extraordinary achievements, such as his golf skills, which are presented with a mix of admiration and disbelief.
  • Concerns are raised about the lack of a clear line of succession in North Korea, with references to his sons and their potential roles in leadership.
  • Some participants provide background information on Kim Jong Il's family and the rumors surrounding succession, highlighting the political implications of these dynamics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit a mix of satirical admiration and skepticism regarding Kim Jong Il's leadership. There is no consensus on his popularity or the implications of his health, with multiple competing views on succession and leadership dynamics.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes speculative claims about Kim Jong Il's personal life and achievements, which may not be substantiated. Additionally, the implications of succession are discussed without clear evidence or consensus on the outcomes.

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sorry, just wanted to be the first to type that headline.
Is there a leader of any country in the world so loved by his people?
 
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Oh no, our beloved leader is sick?

I hear he personally had sex with every woman in korea. So he is literally the father of our country. We are all brothers and systers!

Hooray!
 
Did not know you were North Korean, Cyrus, but that explains soooooooooo much.

Anyway, given the secrecy, it is possible that he's already dead and we don't know it. Hopefully, his death will improve things there, but I won't be holding my breath. Cuba still has a long way to go.
 
Good riddance.
 
Cyrus said:
Oh no, our beloved leader is sick?

I hear he personally had sex with every woman in korea. So he is literally the father of our country. We are all brothers and systers!

Hooray!

I didn't know that. He is/was an amazing man though. Did you know he only played golf one time in his life and got Eighteen holes in one.
Edit: that's eighteen times he got a hole in one. not eighteen holes, in one stroke. Although he could have if he'd wanted to.
 
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tribdog said:
I didn't know that. He is/was an amazing man though. Did you know he only played golf one time in his life and got Eighteen holes in one.
Edit: that's eighteen times he got a hole in one. not eighteen holes, in one stroke. Although he could have if he'd wanted to.

He also has a pillow made from the down of 10k birds.
 
What kind of birds? The down of 10K hummingbirds could probably fit in a throw pillow. Emus, on the other wing, could probably fill an Olympic size pool sized pillow.
 
This could actually be a problem. There is no line of succession in N Korea. One of his son's will probably step in. I did see on a newscast that one of the sons was disowned because he tried to make a trip to the Tokyo Disney land.
 
Presently, Kim Jong Il has three sons: Jong Nam (37), who was born to movie actress Sung Hye Rim (deceased in 2002), Jong Cheol (27) and Jong Woon (25), who were born to Ko Young Hee (deceased in May 2004), a former dancer in the Pyongyang Mansudae Art Troupe.

Regarding the hereditary succession of power from father to son, suggestion and rumors have been circulating internationally; for example that Kim Ok, who is acting as the de facto wife of Kim Jong Il, and Lee Jeh Gang, the First Vice Director of the Guidance Department, are moving to install Kim Jong Cheol as the successor, or that Kim Jong Nam, who is currently traveling overseas, is ultimately to return to the North with China's backing.

http://www.dailynk.com/english/read.php?cataId=nk00400&num=4047

And these people have nukes
 

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