Linear ODE Non-constant coefficient

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The discussion revolves around solving a linear ordinary differential equation (ODE) with non-constant coefficients, specifically the equation r*u'' + u' = 0, along with boundary conditions u(2) = 20 and u(1) = 540. Participants explore different methods for approaching the solution, including the use of characteristic equations and transformations.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant identifies the equation as an Euler equation and suggests solving it by guessing a solution of the form u(r) = r^{\lambda}, leading to a characteristic polynomial P(λ) = λ² = 0.
  • This participant derives one solution as u(r) = 1 and proposes a second solution involving the natural logarithm, resulting in a general solution of u(r) = A + B ln(r).
  • Another participant acknowledges the Cauchy-Euler form and expresses uncertainty about handling the case when λ = 0.
  • A different approach is presented, where a substitution v = y' transforms the original equation into a separable first-order equation, leading to a solution involving integration and constants of integration.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple methods for solving the ODE, indicating that there is no single agreed-upon approach. The discussion reflects different perspectives on how to handle the equation and its boundary conditions.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions regarding the form of the solutions and the integration constants are not explicitly stated, and the dependence on the specific boundary conditions may affect the final solution. The discussion does not resolve these aspects.

Who May Find This Useful

Students or individuals studying differential equations, particularly those interested in Euler equations and methods for solving ODEs with non-constant coefficients.

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Hi. I'm having difficulty remembering how to solve for u(r).
The equation is r*u''+u'=0 with BC u(2)=20; u(1)=540.

Any help would be appreciated. I really need help setting up how to solve. Thanks.
 
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This is an Euler equation (a standard form would be with u'' coefficient being r^2, so just multiply the equation by r), and is solved with guessing a solution [tex]u(r)=r^{\lambda}[/tex]
Substituting into the equation gives:

[tex]\lambda (\lambda-1)r^{\lambda -1}+\lambda r^{\lambda-1}[/tex]

Then divding by the power of r gives you the characteristic polynomial:

[tex]P(\lambda)= \lambda ^ {2} =0[/tex]

So you have one solution [tex]u(r)=r^{0}=1[/tex], the second solution will e [tex]u(r)=ln(r) r^{0}=ln(r)[/tex] (which is a result of a manipulation analogous to constant coefficient theory)

And a general solution is [tex]u(r)=A+B ln(r)[/tex], and then just use initial conditions
 
Thanks so much. It reminded me of Cauchy-Euler, but I did not know how to approach it with lambda=0.
 
Another way to do this problem is to note that u does not appear explicitely in the problem.

Let v= y' and the equation becomes rv'+ v= 0, a simple, separable, first order equation.

rv'= -v so dv/v= -dr/r and, integrating, ln v= ln -r+ C or v= C'/r.

Now we have u'= C'/r so integrating again, u(t)= C'/2 ln r+ C", exactly what elibj123 got.
 

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