Is Louis Crane's New Paper on Neutrino Models and Symmetry a Visionary Work?

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The discussion revolves around Louis Crane's new paper on neutrino models and symmetry, specifically examining the A4 discrete symmetry and its duality with the E6 continuous symmetry in grand unification. Participants explore the implications of this work within the context of string field theory and its potential visionary nature.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that the A4 discrete symmetry used in neutrino models is dual to the E6 continuous symmetry commonly applied in grand unification.
  • There is a suggestion that Crane's work may be an extension of the EPRL model and incorporates string field theory where strings operate on a discrete space.
  • One participant questions whether the work is visionary or merely eccentric, highlighting that visionary ideas often seem crazy at first.
  • Another participant mentions that the paper bears similarities to theories proposed by Marni, who has previously collaborated with Crane on related topics.
  • Concerns are raised about the lack of acknowledgment of Marni's contributions in Crane's paper, especially given their past collaboration and her relevant work on A4 symmetry.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the nature of Crane's work, with some viewing it as potentially visionary while others remain skeptical, indicating that multiple competing views exist regarding its significance and originality.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions about the implications of the proposed models and the extent to which they build on or diverge from existing theories. The discussion also touches on the ethical considerations of credit and acknowledgment in collaborative research.

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Researchers and enthusiasts in the fields of theoretical physics, particularly those interested in neutrino models, symmetry in particle physics, and string theory, may find this discussion relevant.

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http://arxiv.org/abs/1201.0525

Strange enough to deserve its own thread... The A4 discrete symmetry often used in neutrino models is dual to the E6 continuous symmetry often used in grand unification! This extension of the EPRL model is also a string field theory where the strings move on a discrete space! Is it a visionary work, or just a crazy one?
 
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I send this paper to Marni. It is way too similar to her theories.
 
mitchell porter said:
http://arxiv.org/abs/1201.0525

Strange enough to deserve its own thread... The A4 discrete symmetry often used in neutrino models is dual to the E6 continuous symmetry often used in grand unification! This extension of the EPRL model is also a string field theory where the strings move on a discrete space! Is it a visionary work, or just a crazy one?

Visionary always sounds crazy at first, not every crazy idea is visionary.

Or as someone once said, "your idea is crazy but is it crazy enough?".
 
MTd2 said:
I send this paper to Marni. It is way too similar to her theories.
Well, she and Crane coauthored a categorical state-sum model once. But she has the extra layers of twistors and braids in her current work. She has blogged about A4 from that perspective.

Here's a link to Marcus's thread on this paper, for cross-reference and in case this one disappears.
 

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