Matrix Component Equation: Solving for B with Known Scalar and Indices

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The discussion revolves around solving the matrix equation $$A_{ij} = c B_{ij} + B_{kk} \delta_{ij}$$ for the matrix ##B##, where ##c## is a known scalar and ##i,j,k## are indices ranging from ##1## to ##3##. Participants explore techniques for manipulating the equation, including taking the trace and substituting results back into the equation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests taking the trace of the equation to simplify the problem, interpreting ##B_{kk}## as the sum of diagonal elements of ##B##.
  • Another participant proposes rewriting the equation based on the trace result, indicating a method to isolate ##B_{ij}##.
  • A correction is made regarding a mathematical expression, emphasizing the condition that ##c + 3## must not equal zero for the method to be valid.
  • Further discussion includes the general principle of reducing degrees of freedom in matrix equations and the potential benefits of diagonalizing matrices to simplify problems.

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Participants generally agree on the utility of taking the trace and the method of substitution, but there are corrections and clarifications regarding the specific algebraic manipulations. The discussion remains open with no consensus on all aspects of the approach.

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There are limitations regarding the assumptions made about the values of ##c## and the implications of the trace operation, which are not fully resolved in the discussion.

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Solve $$A_{ij} = c B_{ij}+B_{kk} \delta_{ij}$$ for ##B## where ##c## is a known scalar and ##i,j,k## are indices and range either ##1,2,3## and ##\delta_{ij}## which is the Kronecker Delta..

I've thought to write this into a matrix but I'm unsure what to do with the ##B_{kk}##. Any help or guidance is greatly appreciated.

(This is from a book, so not exactly homework Thanks!

Josh
 
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One of the very useful techniques to use when solving such matrix equations is to take the trace of the equation and then substitute the result back in. I am assuming the Einstein summation convention in being applied so that ##B_{kk}## actually means ##B_{11}+B_{22}+B_{33}##. Taking the trace yields ##A_{ii}=(c+3)B_{kk}##, so you just substitute ##B_{kk}## back in and you are done.

This technique is very useful, so hopefully you will remember it to apply to other problems.
 
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Thanks for replying Lucas! So are you saying to rewrite the equation as $$A_{ij} = c B_{ij} + \frac{c}{c+3} A_{kk} \delta_{ij} \implies \\ B_{ij} = \frac{1}{c}A_{ij} - \frac{1}{c+3} A_{kk}\delta_{ij}$$ This totally makes sense! So that I understand, you use this trick whenever you have ##X_{ii}##, right? Also, do you have any other fancy tricks? :)
 
In the first line it is ##\frac{1}{c+3}## instead of what you wrote. Apart form that it is correct. Also I just realized that ##c+3## must be different than ##0## for this to work, otherwise you find ##A## to be traceless.

joshmccraney said:
This totally makes sense! So that I understand, you use this trick whenever you have XiiXiiX_{ii}, right?

Not necessarely, although that may be a strong indicator to use it. Use it whenever you want a way to reduce the degrees of freedom of the equation. When taking the trace you reduce the freedom from ##n^2## to ##1## for ##n## by ##n## matrices.

In general a matrix will have ##n^2## components, and it can always be separated into a symmetric and antisymmetric part. The symmetric has ##n(n+1)/2## independent components while an antisymmetric part has ##n(n-1)/2## independent components. The symmetric part can be further separated into traceless part and trace. So taking the trace is analogous to computing a component of a matrix equation. You can also symmetrize or antisymmetrize to reduce the number of equations.

Another very useful technique is diagonlising one of the matrices. This can help simplify a particular problem.
 
Thanks for catching the algebra mistake, and thanks for all your help!
 

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