Meagre cows and future searches

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The discussion revolves around the search for scalar resonances at the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) and the collection of relevant preprints. Participants explore the implications of current findings and the terminology used in the context of collider physics.

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  • One participant references an arXiv preprint that aims to compile data on searches for scalar resonances at the LHC, suggesting the need for a dedicated thread for such discussions.
  • Another participant expresses confusion over the "cow" reference but acknowledges the importance of establishing a central discussion point for new collider resonances, interpreting "concrete" as referring to statistically significant findings.
  • A participant notes that the LHC has sufficient energy for known constituent particles but highlights the absence of supersymmetric particles, suggesting that models may be just out of reach for current datasets.
  • There is a reiteration of the need for caution and the importance of waiting for more data before drawing conclusions about emerging findings in the context of "meagre cows."

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Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding terminology and concepts, indicating some confusion but generally agree on the importance of discussing new collider resonances. However, there is no consensus on the implications of current findings or the interpretation of specific terms.

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Participants mention the need for caution and the potential for models to be just beyond the reach of current datasets, indicating limitations in the current understanding and the need for further data.

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preprints about concrete resonances to be searched in the next run of LHC or future accelerators.
https://arxiv.org/abs/2001.04770 intends to collect available data on searches for scalar resonances at LHC, and I think it could be useful to have a thread to collect such kind of preprints, either for scalar or other particles.
 
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I don't get the "cow" reference although I can tell that it is one, but no harm in establishing a central place to discusses new collider resonances.

Also, I assume that by "concrete" you mean definite or statistically significant, and not made of the aggregate construction material.

I also presume that you mean to include resonances that are probably hadronic, rather than fundamental.
 
The Large Hadron Collider has the total energy of the known constituent particles but no super symmetry particles have been found.
 
ohwilleke said:
I don't get the "cow" reference although I can tell that it is one, but no harm in establishing a central place to discusses new collider resonances.

Also, I assume that by "concrete" you mean definite or statistically significant, and not made of the aggregate construction material.

Hmm I got the reference from inside the text

[URL='https://arxiv.org/abs/2001.04770']2001.04770[/URL] said:
Caution is of course mandatory and one should wait for more data,..., but, in this period of ‘meagre cows’ and dramatic strategic decisions, one cannot disdain this emerging hope.

And yep, concrete was intended as adjetive to resonances.
 
New Simplicio said:
The Large Hadron Collider has the total energy of the known constituent particles but no super symmetry particles have been found.
The constituent particles wouldn't be supersymmetric particles. You can always tune the parameters to make a model just out of reach for the current datasets, even though the overall energy is sufficient.
 
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