Naming Alkanes: CH3CH(CH3)CH3CH(CH2CH3)CH(CH3)CH3

[PhysicBeginner]

Hi, my question is when naming Alkanes like CH3CH(CH3)CH3CH(CH2CH3)CH(CH3)CH3
Do I name it as 3-ethyl-2,5-dimethylpentane?

Also does this naming rules also apply to alkene and alkyne?

 

[Mattara]

Here are the rules for naming alkanes, alkenes, alkynes:

Alkanes:

Start with the longest unbroken chain of carbon atoms it doesn't matter how it is twisted as long as it isn't a part of a circle (then cyclo) or broken.

Use the normal methane, ethane series to name it. This is the suffix of the alkane.

(In your case:6 carbon atoms = hexane)

Then look at the branches. Assign the carbon atoms numbers from 1 - the highest in the chain (in your case 6). Start from the end of the molecule where the carbon atom of the first branch has the lowest number.

After that, you go to the first branch. See how many carbon atoms the branch compose of. Name this with the methane ethane series as well but the words change a bit just here:

methane --> methyl
ethane --> ethyl
propane --> propyl etc.

This is to distinquise between the main chain and the branshed
Do not only write down the name of the branch but also the number of the carbon atom from the main chain on which it is positioned on.
Go to the next in line and repeat until you are done.

Let us take an example:

CH_3CH_2CH_2(CH_2CH_3)CH_2CH_2(CH_2)CH_3CH_3

The longest unbroken carbon chain = 7 = -Heptane
The number of the first branch carbon atom = 2 (from the right)
The name for the 1st branch = methyl (1 carbon)
The number of the second branch carbon atom = 4 (from the right)
The name of the 2nd branch = ethyl (2 carbon)

The name of that molecule would be:

2-methyl-4-ethylheptane

if there are 2 methyl groups in a molecule it is dimetyl

Lets say that the ethyl group had been a methyl group:

2,4-dimethylheptane

Naming alkenes and alkynes are done in excatly the same order, but the carbon chain picked must contain the doubble/tripple bond.

Now i think you can name your molecule by yourself :)

 

[bomba923]

Answer in white:
"3-ethyl-2,5-dimethylpentane" is correctly named as 2-methyl-3-ethylhexane[/color]

 

[Mattara]

No that is not correct :S

Shouldn't it be
2-methyl-4-ethylhexane[/color]
?

 

[bomba923]

No, the ethyl group is on the 3rd carbon,
hence 2-methyl-3-ethylhexane.

When PhysicBeginner mentioned "3-ethyl-2,5-dimethylpentane,"
-Draw a pentane molecule.
-Add a methyl group to the 2nd & 5th carbons.
-And an ethyl group to the 3rd carbon.

What results:
-Adding a methyl to the fifth carbon of pentane results in hexane.
-The 2-methyl group retains its name and location.
-The 3-ethyl group name retains its name and location.

Thus, you have 2-methyl-3-ethylhexane.

 

[Mattara]

here is the formula that was given:

CH_3CH(CH_3)CH_3CH(CH_2CH_3)CH(CH_3)

which can be simplified to

CH_3CH(CH_3)CH_3CH(CH_2CH_3)CHCH_3

CH3CH(CH3)CH3CH(CH2CH3)CHCH3
1____2________3____4_____________5__6

2-metyl-4-ethylpentane :)

 

[bomba923]

here is the formula that was given:
CH_3CH(CH_3)CH_3CH(CH_2CH_3)CH(CH_3)
which can be simplified to
CH_3CH(CH_3)CH_3CH(CH_2CH_3)CHCH_3
CH3CH(CH3)CH3CH(CH2CH3)CHCH3
1____2________3____4_____________5__6
2-metyl-4-ethylpentane :)

Yes,
CH_3CH(CH_3)CH_3CH(CH_2CH_3)CH(CH_3) is 2-methyl-4-ethylhexane. I never said it wasn't.

But if you read what I wrote carefully,
I said,

"3-ethyl-2,5-dimethylpentane is correctly named as 2-methyl-3-ethylhexane.

Clearly, I refer only to the name--"3-ethyl-2,5-dimethylpentane", ----not whatever
CH_3CH(CH_3)CH_3CH(CH_2CH_3)CH(CH_3) was.

And yes, my statement is correct. Please read more carefully next time .

 

[Mattara]

Hi, my question is when naming Alkanes like CH3CH(CH3)CH3CH(CH2CH3)CH(CH3)CH3
Do I name it as 3-ethyl-2,5-dimethylpentane?
Also does this naming rules also apply to alkene and alkyne?

Aha, i missed the last CH_3

sry, my bad :p