Necessary and sufficient x^3=1

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The discussion centers on the equation ##x^3=1##, exploring the implications of cube roots and the nature of solutions in both real and complex contexts. Participants examine why the equation does not imply that ##x=1## is the only solution, considering the existence of complex roots and the properties of cube roots as multi-valued functions.

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  • One participant questions why ##x^3=1## does not imply ##x=1##, suggesting a naive logical argument based on cube roots.
  • Another participant clarifies that the cube root is a one-to-many mapping, leading to three distinct solutions: ##x=1, x=\omega, x=\omega^2##, where ##\omega=e^{2\pi/3}##.
  • Formal logic is introduced to express the relationship between the solutions, emphasizing that while ##x=1## leads to ##x^3=1##, the reverse does not hold.
  • A participant seeks to understand how to easily retrieve the two complex roots, drawing an analogy to the principal square root in the context of cube roots.
  • Another participant explains that polynomials split over the complex numbers and discusses the geometric interpretation of complex multiplication, relating it to the unit circle and the distribution of roots.

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Participants generally agree on the existence of multiple solutions to the equation ##x^3=1##, but there is an ongoing exploration of the implications of cube roots and the methods for retrieving complex roots. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to understand these concepts.

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So we have ##x^3=1##. I have a really simple question. Why isn't it true that ##x^3 = 1## if and only if ##x = 1##, when we consider that if we take cube root of both sides and we can then take the cube again? Of course there are two other complex roots, but what am I missing in my naive logical argument?
 
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The cube root is not a function, as it is a one-to-many mapping, in fact one-to-three. So taking the cube root of both sides gives three separate equations, not one: ##x=1,\ x=\omega## and ##x=\omega^2##, where ##\omega=e^{2\pi/3}##.

Expressed in formal logic, we have
$$x^3=1 \Leftrightarrow (x=1\vee x=\omega\vee x=\omega^2)$$

Given the properties of ##\vee## (OR), this allows us to deduce that
$$x=1\Rightarrow x^3=1$$
but not that
$$x^3=1 \Rightarrow x=1$$
 
andrewkirk said:
The cube root is not a function, as it is a one-to-many mapping, in fact one-to-three. So taking the cube root of both sides gives three separate equations, not one: ##x=1,\ x=\omega## and ##x=\omega^2##, where ##\omega=e^{2\pi/3}##.

Expressed in formal logic, we have
$$x^3=1 \Leftrightarrow (x=1\vee x=\omega\vee x=\omega^2)$$

Given the properties of ##\vee## (OR), this allows us to deduce that
$$x=1\Rightarrow x^3=1$$
but not that
$$x^3=1 \Rightarrow x=1$$
I think I see. So with square roots, ##+ \sqrt[2]{x}## is the principal square root which defines a function, while ##\pm \sqrt[2]{x}## is the value of both roots. So analogously ##\sqrt[3]{x}## is the principal cube root, while... What's the analogous way of retrieving the two complex roots easily?
 
^the n solutions of $$x^n=y$$ are
##exp(2k \pi i /n)\sqrt[n]{y}##
for
k=0,1,...,n-2,n-1

thus the complex cube roots of a positive real y are
##exp(2 \pi i /n)\sqrt[n]{y}=\left(-\frac{1}{2}+\frac{i \sqrt{3}}{2}\right)\sqrt[n]{y}##
and
##exp(4 \pi i /n)\sqrt[n]{y}=\left(-\frac{1}{2}-\frac{i \sqrt{3}}{2}\right)\sqrt[n]{y}##
 
Mr Davis 97 said:
What's the analogous way of retrieving the two complex roots easily?
Polynomials split over the complex numbers. So we have to look at complex multiplication. If we represent complex numbers as points in the plane, then multiplication means to multiply the real length of two numbers (= distance to the origin), and add there angles (= towards the real axis). This means in return, that numbers of length one are all on the unit circle, and multiplication of those is adding angles, i.e. in order to solve ##x^n=x \cdot \ldots \cdot x = 1##, we have to divide the unit circle in ##n## equal angles and all possible ##x## are those points on the circle which @lurflurf listed.
 

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