Are Identical Non-Interacting Particles Distinguishable?

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Identical non-interacting fermions, such as electrons, remain indistinguishable despite the lack of interactions. Their wavefunctions are anti-symmetrized, which enforces the Pauli exclusion principle, preventing them from occupying the same quantum state. This indistinguishability is a fundamental aspect of quantum mechanics, not contingent on particle interactions. The concept is primarily mathematical, as non-interacting particles are not typically found in physical scenarios. Thus, even without interactions, the indistinguishable nature of these particles persists.
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I just wanted to clarify something conceptual with non-interacting particles. So if you have three identical non-interacting fermions (say electrons), is it true that they are distinguishable (since they're non-interacting)? Or are they indistinguishable since they're still identical?
 
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No, the indistinguishability of the electrons is also present in the absence of interactions. Any wavefunction of the electrons is anti-symmetrized. So although the electrons do not interact, they still feel some form of repelment as they cannot occupy the same state.

It's ofcourse a mathematical statement, since non-interacting particles can hardly be considered physical.
 
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No, the indistinguishability of the electrons is also present in the absence of interactions. Any wavefunction of the electrons is anti-symmetrized. So although the electrons do not interact, they still feel some form of repelment as they cannot occupy the same state.

It's ofcourse a mathematical statement, since non-interacting particles can hardly be considered physical.

Ok thanks. So basically: even though they're non-interacting, they're still indistinguishable and they obey the Pauli exclusion principle. Correct?
 
Yes, indeed.
 
Time reversal invariant Hamiltonians must satisfy ##[H,\Theta]=0## where ##\Theta## is time reversal operator. However, in some texts (for example see Many-body Quantum Theory in Condensed Matter Physics an introduction, HENRIK BRUUS and KARSTEN FLENSBERG, Corrected version: 14 January 2016, section 7.1.4) the time reversal invariant condition is introduced as ##H=H^*##. How these two conditions are identical?

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