Normalized Eigenvectors of a Hermitian operator

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The discussion revolves around finding the eigenvalues and eigenvectors of a given Hermitian operator H. The eigenvalues calculated are λ1 = r and λ2 = -r, but there is confusion regarding the normalization of the eigenvectors. Participants point out that the initially provided normalized quantum states are incorrect and suggest recalculating them. The correct normalized eigenvector is derived as a multiple of a simpler form, demonstrating that any scalar multiple of an eigenvector is also valid. The task ultimately emphasizes the importance of normalization in quantum mechanics.
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Hi all

Homework Statement



Given is a Hermitian Operator H
H= \begin{pmatrix}<br /> a &amp; b \\<br /> b &amp; -a <br /> \end{pmatrix}

where as a=rcos \phi , b=rsin \phi

I shall find the Eigen values as well as the Eigenvectors. Furthermore I shall show that the normalized quantum states are:

\mid + \rangle =\begin{pmatrix}<br /> \frac{cos \phi}{2} \\<br /> \frac{sin \phi}{2}<br /> \end{pmatrix}

and

\mid - \rangle =\begin{pmatrix}<br /> \frac{-sin \phi}{2} \\<br /> \frac{cos \phi}{2}<br /> \end{pmatrix}

I know that: \frac {tan \phi}{2} = \frac {1-cos \phi}{sin \phi}



Homework Equations



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The Attempt at a Solution



I calculated the Eigen values vie the determinant (=0) (let's call them lambda). I think I did that right and the solutions are:
\lambda_1=r ,\lambda_2=-r

Furthermore I calculated two Eigenvectors. I have something like an inner product

from H times a vector, so I just swapped the two entries and put a minus in front of one. My two Eigenvectors are:



\vec v_1 =\begin{pmatrix}<br /> -rsin \phi \\<br /> rcos \phi - r<br /> \end{pmatrix}<br /> <br /> \vec v_2 =\begin{pmatrix}<br /> -rsin \phi \\<br /> rcos \phi + r<br /> \end{pmatrix}

I calculated the norm which is
||v_1||^2 = 2r^2(1-cos \phi)

But now I'm stuck. I don't get the solution I should get. Did I do something wrong?

Thanks for your help.
 
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Lindsayyyy said:
I know that: \frac {tan \phi}{2} = \frac {1-cos \phi}{sin \phi}
Don't know if it helps any, but that should read tan \frac {\phi}{2} = \frac {1-cos \phi}{sin \phi}
 
Something looks wrong with your eigenvectors. Try working on them again / show your work.
 
I'm in a hurry. Thanks for your help guys. I'll post tomorrow how I calculated my eigenvectors.

@haruspex

Thanks for that info, it wasn't clear on the sheet where that /2 belongs to. The vectors + and - which are given are also wrong then, it should be sin(phi/2) etc I guess then.
 
Lindsayyyy said:
I'm in a hurry. Thanks for your help guys. I'll post tomorrow how I calculated my eigenvectors.

@haruspex

Thanks for that info, it wasn't clear on the sheet where that /2 belongs to. The vectors + and - which are given are also wrong then, it should be sin(phi/2) etc I guess then.
Yup...the original eigenvectors you were supposed to prove seemed kind of dubious as they arent normalised.
 
Well, my attempt was totally wrong. But I'm stuck now.

I try to find the Eigenvector for the Eigenvalue r

I have:

\begin{pmatrix}<br /> rcos \phi &amp; rsin \phi \\<br /> rsin \phi &amp; -rcos \phi <br /> \end{pmatrix} \begin{pmatrix}<br /> x \\<br /> y<br /> \end{pmatrix}=\begin{pmatrix}<br /> 0 \\<br /> 0 <br /> \end{pmatrix}

When I try to solve this I come to:

xrcos \phi -xr +yrsin \phi = 0 \\<br /> xrsin \phi -yrcos \phi -yr= 0

Furthermore I come to:

x= y \frac{sin \phi}{1-cos\phi}

aswell as
y= x\frac{sin \phi}{cos\phi +1}

My problem is the following: I don't know what my x and y are and I can't solve it properly. I'm stuck. Did I do it right thus far? And what to do next?

Thanks for your help
 
Lindsayyyy said:
Furthermore I come to:
x= y \frac{sin \phi}{1-cos\phi}
Well that's it! In general, there is no unique eigenvector - if |+> is an eigenvector of the matrix, then clearly any multiple of |+> too is a possible eigenvector.

So, our generalised eigenvector (for eigenvalue r) is
<br /> \left(\begin{matrix} \frac{sin \phi}{1-cos\phi} \\ 1 \end{matrix}\right)<br /> \equiv \left(\begin{matrix} sin \phi \\ 1-cos\phi \end{matrix}\right)<br /> \equiv \left(\begin{matrix} 2 sin \frac{\phi}{2} cos \frac{\phi}{2} \\ 2 sin^{2}\frac{\phi}{2} \end{matrix}\right)<br /> \equiv \left(\begin{matrix} cos \frac{\phi}{2} \\ sin \frac{\phi}{2} \end{matrix}\right)<br />
where we recognise that the final eigenvector is normalised.
(you could of course simply normalise the first eigenvector and arrive at the same result)
 
So you just chose your y as one because you say any multiplied vector to the eigenvector is one eigenvector aswell?

Thanks for the help everyone.

The task was to show that the normalized eigenvectors are the given ones. I did it just with the equation

H*ev=lambda*ev (ev=eigenvector)

but I wanted to know the other way around, because this looks more elegant to me^^.
 
Yup, it doesn't matter which multiple of the eigenvector I choose to use. After normalising, I will still end up with the same normalised eigenvector.
 
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Ok, I think I understand it a bit better now. Thanks for your help again
 

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